Aggresive or scaried lovebird

[jancijen]

i think that ill buy prestige i posted before and mix it with fruit...

btw : welcome back

[Eric&Rebecca]

You can't mix the fruit with the seeds:

1. The bird will just eat the seeds and leave the fruit
2. Fresh fruits shouldn't be left in the cage all day.. 2-3 hours for some fruits. Dried fruits can be left all day but anything moist shouldn't be left too long in the cage so you can't mix the two together.

Also you can't just feed fruits you need to feed a variety of fruits, vegetables, pulses and grains. Its not ok to put apple in everyday or greens every day. You need to change what you feed each day and know how much and how often you should feed each fruit/veg/etc.

Its an actual researched process you can't just put some seeds in and put some fruits in and hope for the best. Pellets try to combine this into one thing which covers my bases but I still have to be careful what I feed my birds in the seed, fruit, veg and pulse portions of their diets. As you can't get pellets you will have to be especially careful about what you are feeding and when. Please read about the raw diet and nutritional values of foods. Parajita can help you with this.

It's very important because too much or too little of certain things can make your bird sick too. Its not hard once you have the knowledge but you need to put some work into finding what is best for you particular bird type. What I feed my cockatiels will not work for your lovebird. Perhaps make a post in Health section to get some further advice.

[jancijen]

Thanks for reply now i am really sad and still stressed of my parrot he is still nipping. My mom was changing his food and water today, but i am changing it while he is eating spray of millet in the back of cage, but she was just changing it. (before she was doing it without problems) but today he nipped my mom a little bit just like trying hands and then he nipped hard :/ i am training with him everyday (target training in the cage) with little exceptions, but without results in his behave to hands he is not chewin target stick ... i think he is able to do it very good but i need change in his behave to hands i wanna to pet him etc. but i cant it would be real fun and i would like it and relax with parrot but i cant pls help me

[Eric&Rebecca]

Ok one you need to be more patient. You've not been doing it long enough yet! Also lovebirds are naturally territorial about the cage so you will be limited to how good that's going to get. You are seeing progress here but like we all said to you it takes many months, sometimes longer and you must be patient.

Also if he nipping you its because YOU are doing something wrong.

Your movements are too fast or sudden for the bird
Lovebirds are naturally this way about their cage so you will not change that, its something that can be reduced but it will not disappear completely. My cockatiels still do it, its just natural for them and you have to accomodate that.
You are reacting to bites, if you pull away suddenly, or say owww or panic, this makes the bird do it again and again to you musn't react.
The bird doesn't have a good routine- your bird needs to have 10-12 hours sleep every night and to have good foods as this can greatly affect behaviour
The bird needs more time outside the cage, the bird is becoming aggressive because its stuck in the cage for too long every day.

There's nothing wrong with your bird just something from the above or a mixture of things. Its really nothing to get stressed or sad about. In fact all that will do is make it worse. Be patient with your bird, its hard for him to learn al he is doing and he's doing well. Hands are wayyyyy into the future, you can't do target training for 2-3 months and suddenly expect him to be OK with hands, that's not how it works.

Also with petting, some birds just don't like to be pet... ever. The will be tame eventually, sit on your shoulder or finger and play but they just don't like it sometimes. Not everyone wants to be cuddled right? Its the same thing.

If you bought a bird just for that reason, to pet and relax with it then I'm sorry but that isn't always how it works out. You should have a bird for more reasons than just that, not just entertainment for you. Its not something you can command to do what you want, its a living thing with its own mind.

You just need to slow down, stop being impatient and accept progress when it comes. If this stresses you this much what will happen during the birds sexual maturity or when it starts screaming (can happen during molting and breeding season) or if it gets sick. Now THAT is mildly stressful

This is just the reality of training a bird and is normal- just got to get on with it and be patient.

[jancijen]

Thanks again for ur support and some questions- Is it okay that i am feeding him in back of the cage when i am changing food ? when i try to open door he immediately comes to my hands -.-, so this is reason why i do it, i am just asking if it is not bad .... and my mom is saying that he was long time in breeding (i started him training when he was maybe 6 months old or more) so he ll never be tamed i dont know my mom tammed about 2 or 3 cockatiels from breeding and she is saying that he is late to tame him now :/ I dont know i am really confused.

[Eric&Rebecca]

Ok you can train a bird at any age. 6 months is still very young. No offence but your mum is totally wrong. Breeders and pet shops tell people that so they will buy babies thinking they will take easier. It's not true at all you can train a bird at 2 weeks or 45 years old. It's still the same and can be tamed. Abused birds, that's different but even they can be tamed so too old to tame, sorry that's total rubbish.

It's beneficial to start taming from birth but not essential. Most cockatiels that are sold at 6-8 months old. I've tamed them myself, it's really not at all true! Sorry but your mum couldn't be further from the truth. I've had 7 year old cockatiel who was tamed down even tamer than the young ones I've got now you just have to stick with it. Be patient.

Yes it's ok to feed him at the back of the cage.

[jancijen]

thanks she thinks that he is too "wild" to tame, is it true? u made me happy again thx

[Eric&Rebecca]

There's no such thing. Unless the bird has been abused then I don't see an issue. No bird can be too wild to train. Again a complete myth spun about by breeders and pet shops to charge more money for a hand tame bird. George was completely wild when I got him and he's sooooo tame now. He's about 6 months old... Please take advice from people on the forum because there's so many people here who successfully train birds.

[jancijen]

Ok thanks for advice again Now i have another question. I am really scared of 1st flight outside the cage how to do it well pls ? What to do outside ?

[Eric&Rebecca]

If he hasn't been out the cage yet that's why he's going wild and bitey he's probably got cage aggressive from being in there.

Make sure that all the windows are closed and that there are no loose chords, wires, that the bird could get stuck in are put away any vases or containers of liquids. Try and keep him in one room. Just remain calm when he's flying don't chase him around to catch him. To put him back get him to step up on the wooden dowel/stick or target him inside the cage with the target stick or food. He may bump into things.

Open the door, let him come out on his own. Don't force him out.

To know better about this please make another post in the 'Health' or 'General' Section. You will get more advice from more people if you post in other sections rather than continuing on this same thread. If you do that you will get more and better advice from more people which is what you need.

Put a hyperlink to this thread in the new post too so people can refer back to it