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Discuss the methods and techniques of clicker training, target training and bonding. These are usually the first steps in training a young parrot.

Re: Chewing bars

Postby Dave & Karen » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:02 am

The bad part is that you will get nipped a few times while teaching him not to nip, just be prepared to get nipped but try to touch his beak, this works best when he's out of his cage, or even in a different room that he's not accustomed to.
When you reach for his beak, he can see your finger so that helps him since he can tell if you're going to try anything so he should allow it if you aproach him calmly. If you reach for his beak but you're nervous, he'll detect this and be ready to defend himself so you'll need to be as confident as possible, then just touch it and reward him. even if he's trying to nip at you, reward him if you can touch his beak, even if it's just a split second. Work with this for a while and you should see him begin to get comfortable with your finger on his beak. This can take anywhere from about 10 minutes to a few days... just reward him anytime you can touch his beak, but when he starts to bve more comfortable with it, try to pet his beak and reward every time you can pet his beak, work with this until he's ok with you petting his beak, and reward every time. Once he's ok with this, you can pet his beak but work your way to his cheek feathers. Birds love being pet on the cheek and the forehead so this should become easy rather quickly.
Just work your way to where you can pet him, then you can begin teaching him other things like stepping up to your finger instead of a stick etc...
Also see my replies in this thread for "gentle beak" training your bird... viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11062
I've trained all of our birds with this and it does work, it works fastest on a yourn hand raised bird, but it can be done on any bird, it just takes longer on parent raised birds and birds that have been caged most their life etc. Once your bird catches on to the gentle beak training the biting and nipping will stop and then you can teach him just about anything or just put him on your shoulder while you're reading, studying, or watching tv etc... Birds love to sit on our shoulders and there's a nice warm neck for them to cuddle into so this is a way to form a bond with them and help them lose all fear of you rather quickly.
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Re: Chewing bars

Postby jancijen » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:12 pm

But I am sure that he ll nip me :( Can I do that throughthe cage, too ?
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Re: Chewing bars

Postby Dave & Karen » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:47 am

You can do some things thru the cage, but no where near as effective, not to mention the bird does have a keen knowledge that you're afraid of his beak when you do things like trying to tame thru the bars or put gloves on before handeling etc...
What you Can do thru the cage bars is talk to him, sing,whistle, or hum a tune to him, offer treats, etc... what you can't do thru the bars is try to pet him, you might be able to sneak in a little beak rub, but if he bites and you instinctively pull back, you can hurt him pretty good since he's got your finger and you're trying to pull back, the cage bars will slam into his face causing the bird some degree of pain at the least,and most likely bruise his face under his feathers, and making him fear you even more... Outside the cage, if he bites or nips and you pull back, he just flies off and nobody gets hurt. You can work on his trust by offering him treats thru the bars but then when he comes to you regularly, let him out and keep offering the treats etc, then try to pet his beak.
I'd limit any thru the bars taming to just talking to him and offering him treats, the rest should be done out of the cage. Remember, the calmer you are, the calmer your bird will be and he can be surprisingly gentle with your finger, ear lobe, eyelid, or nose in his mouth if you talk to him in a very calm but in control voice. This is their way of showing affection.
Another huge mistake people make is they mistake the bird's affection for biting, birds love to groom their humans with their beaks, whether it's pulling your eyebrow or mustache hair, or chewing on your finger etc, that's their way of showing affection and should be allowed, they will try to pull off a skin tag or wart, or mole, or anything they think shouldn't be there and the only way to avoid this is to not let them where anything like this is on you, or to gently say no or to distract them with a toy or treat etc.
Some people might not agree with me on this but I do let all of our birds play with my ears, nose, and eyelids without worry about getting bit hard, I usually just talk in a very calm tone when they got part of my face in their mouth, but if they do start to get rough, I just talk to them Very calm telling them to be gentle or let go, the LAST thing you want to do is yell at a bird that has half your nostril or eyelid in his beak... They will back off tho with a vocal correction spoken gently.

It's all about trusting the bird, and the bird trusting you, the more you trust your bird, the more he will trust you in return, and the calmer you act when things do go wrong, the better the chance he'll let go without incident.

Either way, you should still let him out of his cage for some time each day so he can excercise and have some fun, these guys are very intelligent and do get bored easily.
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Re: Chewing bars

Postby jancijen » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:49 am

Ok, I ll try to do something :) But what to do when he doesnt wanna let me touch his beak ?
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Re: Chewing bars

Postby Dave & Karen » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:45 am

Just work with him slower, the longer he's been in his cage and not handled, the more he's reverted back to being a wild bird, this can be fixed, but it takes time and patience.

You most likely will get nipped and bit a few times before he's tame, but as long as you stick with it and don't give up on him, he should become very tame after a few weeks of working with him.
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Re: Chewing bars

Postby Dave & Karen » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:40 am

Just try to get him out of the cage for now and let him lfy around a bit, he'll find a place to perch or play and this is when you can aproach him and offer him a treat, make sure he sees the treat and slowly aproach him so he doesn't fly off, if he looks like he's gonna fly off, stop, but keep the treat out there for him to see, eventually his desire to get the treat will out weigh his fear of you and he'll let you get closer. He'll snatch it from you the first few times before he gets used to this, then he'll eventually just wait til you put the treat right in front of him and take it casually.

This is the point where you can reach out and touch his beak. Then work with him so he has to let you touch his beak before geting the treat, he'll catch on. After you're able to touch his beak, you can work your way to petting him. don't worry about how long this takes, just work with him every day and he'll come around.
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