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Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby PuddingBird » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:16 pm

Hello,

My parrot is an African Brown Headed Parrot :senegal: . Her sex is unconfirmed, but I was told she is likely to be female, so that's how I refer to her.

A few years ago I worked for a pet store chain. Although the store I was going to work in did not keep animals I was sent to train at another store where I met my parrot. This parrot was already a couple of years old when I came into contact with her and had been pushed and pulled by different people over her short life. Each time she got close to a member of staff at a store, she'd start to bite other staff, so she was sent to another store. When I met her I was instantly interested in her and I felt sorry for her having such a disrupted life. I could see that she was insecure and wanted to help her. I had experience with smaller parakeets as I used to hand-rear them a lot so I hoped I had the right attitude for considering her.

I didn't rush into the decision to bring her home. I kept tabs on her for a few months after we met, but I was told one day that the store was getting rid of its animals and she needed somewhere to go. After more thought, and another visit to see her and handle her, I decided that I wanted her in my life.

At first, she was very upset, obviously distressed about being moved yet again. I let her settle in over the next week, but I wanted to get her handled as soon as I felt she was a bit more settled. I began to get her used to me, and she bit me quite a few times at first. I didn't ever react to her biting me, and after another week or so she stopped biting. From that point onward, we developed a really good relationship and she really came out of her shell. She was affectionate, very chirpy and never bit me. My family began to handle her in small doses as I wanted her to be comfortable with everyone and not favour me if possible.

For a long time (about a year and a half) we were very happy together and she was very comfortable with me and even my family, including my partner at the time. I really loved having her in my life and I was pretty sure she loved it too. I trusted her completely, and I think she knew that, so she was good as gold and very laid back. I spent a lot of time with her, aside from having to go to work. She always had people around her even when I was working, so she seemed very happy. As soon as I was home she was let out of her cage, no matter what I was doing.

I never clipped her wings as I wanted her to feel safe, and also give her the freedom to fly around and exercise herself. I didn't bat an eye whenever she flew around my head or landed on me. It was all fine, until one day she did something I didn't see coming.

I was sat at my desk, and she was flying around as usual, chatting back and forth with me. The next moment I heard her take off and suddenly she had latched onto my ear and was biting it as hard as she could. The only thing I could do was calmly remove her by distracting her, although this took a few seconds. I hadn't much choice but to place her back in her cage as I was going to leave the room and didnt want her to be out and unattended (I know this was probably bad reinforcement, but I wasn't thinking clearly as I was somewhat in shock). I didn't say anything to her and left, and had to go to a doctor to have my ear checked as it was quite a nasty bite.

I didn't want to teach her that her attack was a way of getting her own way, so I didn't leave it long before I handled her again. She was very cautious at first as was I, but the next day I felt bold enough to handle her. However, I was honestly very shaken by what had happened and I just couldn't feel comfortable around her. I didn't want her around my face so unfortunately I stopped her from sitting on my shoulder for a while. I am sure this upset her.

It's been a long time since the incident, and I miss the relationship we had. I love my parrot very much, but am really upset that I can't find my confidence with her. I don't handle her as much as I feel I should, nothing like before, as she has become increasingly moody as time has gone on. I can only guess that she isn't happy and I feel awful for that. She sometimes trembles slightly when I talk to her, even though I tickle her head and get her to whistle etc. I hate to think that somehow she's become afraid of me.

My main question is... how do I find my confidence with her? Is there anything that I can train myself to trust her, and in turn, let her trust me? I am at a loss, and my relationship with her is nothing like it was. I miss her so much... and I feel I am not giving her the best life possible. She is probably frustrated and unhappy and that really hurts.

I know that parrots can be trained even after bad experiences but I don't know where to start. I feel like we are both a bit lost. I am trying to look at all resources online to give me some guidance, perhaps to build her confidence up and to discourage biting. Sometimes she will bite me when I ask her to step up, so I assume that she feels insecure. The more she bites the harder it is for me to give her the idea that I am not afraid of her.

I know I'm probably yet another 'owner' who is doing things wrong... I appreciate that I likely am. I want my bird to be happy again, and I want her to be in my life to the fullest, not just part-time. I'm afraid that I am not a good enough caregiver for her and that breaks my heart. I am fully aware that she is an intelligent creature that needs a lot of attention and I want to give her that.

I'd appreciate any advice/suggestions. Would it be a good or a bad idea to seek help from a parrot behaviourist or such like? I don't want to upset her by doing that. I have wondered whether it is down to her hormones too as she is only 5 years old.

Thank you so much for reading.
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Re: Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby Michael » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:43 pm

The secret to having good parrot handling confidence is to have a training history with your parrot. Having a parrot that is well-behaved because it was trained to and chooses to is much more reassuring than hoping it wont bite or on the basis of a good but unfounded relationship. If the bird is trained, then retraining through the original steps. If it has not been trained, then it must be. Parrot training develops trust both ways. For parrot and human alike. Then you have the confidence to know the parrot chooses to behave the safe way.

But theres a lot more to it. Sleep, hormones, exercise, dayliht, nutrition, socialization, motivation, etc. You can read about me complete approach to all these things in my book: http://ParrotWizard.com/Book

Also see this http://TrainedParrot.com/Success
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Re: Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby PuddingBird » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:10 am

Thank you so much for your response. She was not trained when I got her but I did a lot of training with her, so it is very possible to brush up on that training so long as I can be braver about it. I think the issue is definitely with me and not her. I believe that she is a wonderful parrot and has become very upset because I am upset.

I will try my hardest to retrain the both of us. I'm honestly afraid she will attack me again, but I just need to prepare for that and take a chance. I think I needed some reassurance from people who have more experience than me with lots of different parrots so that I knew I would do the right thing. I worry about her diet as she is quite fussy and ignores a lot of fruits/veg that I offer her. I know that these two foods are a huge part of a parrot's diet so I feel like she is missing out. She didn't get the best start in life and was fed lots of human snacks which has probably not helped. I only give her safe foods myself.

I'm very grateful for your time and help so thank you very much.
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Re: Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby Michael » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:43 am

No! Its not about reassurance! Its about doing what really works to regain trust both ways. If you cant handle yourself with the bird out thenyou arent doing any good. Train the bird inside the cage then. "Rehome the parrot to yourself" is what I tell people. Pretend you dont know or trust the bird and start from scratch as you would with a vicious new rescue bird. Work your way back up as you would from scratch. My book has a lot on that process so check it out if you can.

Reassurance wont solve the underlying problem you see.
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Re: Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby cml » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:33 pm

PuddingBird wrote:I will try my hardest to retrain the both of us. I'm honestly afraid she will attack me again, but I just need to prepare for that and take a chance. I think I needed some reassurance from people who have more experience than me with lots of different parrots so that I knew I would do the right thing. I worry about her diet as she is quite fussy and ignores a lot of fruits/veg that I offer her. I know that these two foods are a huge part of a parrot's diet so I feel like she is missing out. She didn't get the best start in life and was fed lots of human snacks which has probably not helped. I only give her safe foods myself.

I'm very grateful for your time and help so thank you very much.

Sounds like you are on the right track! You've realised that you have to work on the problem, which is like half the battle won already, as you are now ready to take on the challenge of retraining your bird :)!

Read up on Michael's blog and/or his book, as it will offer some great advice on basic taming and such.
You can find the article here: http://www.trainedparrot.com/taming

Regarding the food, hunger is always the best spice is it not ;)? Food management not only helps increase training motivation, but also helps getting the parrots to try new food. You can also expirement with different fruit and veggies, and try cutting them into different sizes and bits, making the textures very different. An easy example is sliced carrots, which is so-so appreciated here, whereas grated carrots is a clear favorite!
Only your imagination will set the limits here (and what's safe for parrots of course :P).
I will soon make a post about fresh food diet (combined with pellets), might help with some inspiration :).

Also, pellets as a staple diet is a great way of ensuring that they get what they need!
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Re: Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby PuddingBird » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:24 am

Michael wrote:No! Its not about reassurance! Its about doing what really works to regain trust both ways. If you cant handle yourself with the bird out thenyou arent doing any good. Train the bird inside the cage then. "Rehome the parrot to yourself" is what I tell people. Pretend you dont know or trust the bird and start from scratch as you would with a vicious new rescue bird. Work your way back up as you would from scratch. My book has a lot on that process so check it out if you can.

Reassurance wont solve the underlying problem you see.


I understand what you're saying. I was nervous about explaining how I felt because it would sound like I was doing the wrong thing by my bird, but I really want to fix the situation. I know that it's my fault that things have got this way. She is my first parrot, so I've learned a lot from her. I've got lots more experience with smaller parakeets but it's very different, and perhaps I didn't make the right decision to take her in but I felt so bad for her always being re-homed. She was returned to the pet store several times before I took her home.

Thanks again for your time/help. I want to do the right thing, I really do. I'll make sure to read up via your media so that I can work on how I behave around my girl.
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Re: Unsure How Get Back My Confidence With My Parrot

Postby PuddingBird » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:29 am

cml wrote:
PuddingBird wrote:I will try my hardest to retrain the both of us. I'm honestly afraid she will attack me again, but I just need to prepare for that and take a chance. I think I needed some reassurance from people who have more experience than me with lots of different parrots so that I knew I would do the right thing. I worry about her diet as she is quite fussy and ignores a lot of fruits/veg that I offer her. I know that these two foods are a huge part of a parrot's diet so I feel like she is missing out. She didn't get the best start in life and was fed lots of human snacks which has probably not helped. I only give her safe foods myself.

I'm very grateful for your time and help so thank you very much.

Sounds like you are on the right track! You've realised that you have to work on the problem, which is like half the battle won already, as you are now ready to take on the challenge of retraining your bird :)!

Read up on Michael's blog and/or his book, as it will offer some great advice on basic taming and such.
You can find the article here: http://www.trainedparrot.com/taming

Regarding the food, hunger is always the best spice is it not ;)? Food management not only helps increase training motivation, but also helps getting the parrots to try new food. You can also experiment with different fruit and veggies, and try cutting them into different sizes and bits, making the textures very different. An easy example is sliced carrots, which is so-so appreciated here, whereas grated carrots is a clear favorite!
Only your imagination will set the limits here (and what's safe for parrots of course :P).
I will soon make a post about fresh food diet (combined with pellets), might help with some inspiration :).

Also, pellets as a staple diet is a great way of ensuring that they get what they need!



Thank you for your encouragement. I feel a bit out of my depth but I am very willing to go back to the beginning and start fresh with her. She is a beautiful, intelligent little parrot and she deserves so much better from me.

I've just bought her some foraging toys that I hope I can eventually give her to play with when I have figured out what other treats/food I can give her. I know what she loves, but she sometimes doesn't care for those! She's a bit of a madam :) I know how important it is for them to forage, so I hope to make sure she can do that more. Somehow, I should have realised that cutting the fruit and veg up differently would make it interesting for her. I know how sensitive their beaks are and they use them to explore, so it was really obvious! Goodness knows how it didn't click for me. Thank you for that advice!

I'm really eager to learn how to be better for her. I really do adore her so much, she's such a sweetie and misunderstood I think. It's time I started over and got to know her like Michael has said, as though she doesn't know me and isn't tame at all. I just don't want to do any more damage.
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