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Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby GozoFran » Tue May 13, 2014 11:16 am

I am just going to tell you the story of Billy Jean then maybe you can help me with this beautiful girl.
We got her 4 days ago. She has been badly mistreated . Her life story so far she was bought as a baby and hand fed but things seemed to go wrong when she went through the buffering her owner hit her when she bit she has not been out of the cage for over 2 years so this will make her about 3 years old. Anyway I knew this bird used to go to the house to take teats when I could. A few weeks ago I again went to the house with some treats for Billy the guy said it was a boy by the way. When I went in the house he told me Billy had escaped and he had got a new bird. A few days ago we went into a Pet Store this is also a flower shop and saw this yellow bird in a small cage, I went for a closer look and was sure it was Billy I called to him he came straight to the bars and stuck his beak through. I knew then what had happened this bird had been traded in for another model. I asked the Guy in the shop where the bird had come from and he gave me a very good description of the Guy. Anyway Billy is a girl not a boy hence the Billy Jean. She was so distressed could not leave without her so I bought her and brought her home.

Now I need help to get her to trust again she is frightened to death of hands and very aggressive which I put down to fear. Not doing too badly after only 4 days she will now take the smallest piece of apple from my fingers.But I do need to put my hand in the cage to do some cleaning but she bites like crazy when you do this I do not want to upset her anymore than she is. So that is why I need some help here. :irn:
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby Wolf » Tue May 13, 2014 11:42 am

Do you have a travel cage that you could get her to go into while you clean her cage? That would probably be the simplest way to deal with this for now.
It is hard to say this early on how much of this behavior is from fear and how much is territorial behavior. Either way it could take a while to win her trust.
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby Pajarita » Tue May 13, 2014 12:29 pm

Ringnecks, both African and Indian, are notorious for reverting to wild behaviors if not handled constantly and correctly so, yes, this is what happened with the added problem that the stupid previous owner hit her so now she has lost all trust in humans and fears them to boot.

Now, what you need to do is put her in a nice, very large cage. This is not only because birds need the space but also because, this way, when you put your hand in it to change her food and water, she can scoot far away from it.

First thing to do is gain her trust back. This is easier said than done because it will take Wolf's recipe (two cups of patience, add two tablespoons of patience and mix, sprinkle some patience and bake in an patience oven) and work to achieve - but it can be done.

What you need to do is get her used to your presence to the point that she no longer fears it. This is achieved by figuring out the distance between you and her cage where she feels comfortable at. Without looking at her directly (avert your face and look at her out of the corner of your eye) walk toward her cage with a chair and, when you see her tensing or scrambling to put more distance between you and her, stop immediately. Place the chair sideways (not facing her) and do whatever (watch TV, read, study, pay bills, do your homework, play video games, whatever) and just talk in a calm tone of voice. Say the things you are planning to use as praise for her, things like "Pretty Bird! You are such a pretty bird - yes, you are! Good girl, Billy, you are such a good girl!" etc every now and then. Spend as much time as possible doing this with her. The longer you do it, the faster she will get used to you. As the days go by and you see she doesn't react negatively when you approach her and, when you sit down and start talking to her, you see (always out of the corner of your eye) that she is relaxed (she eats, preens, stretches, her body is not in an 'alert' position or tense in any way), move the chair just a little bit closer. Offer her treats every now and then but do it as in passing, not staring at her while waiting for her to take it.

Then, when the day comes that she no longer reacts and you are able to stand next to her cage without her tensing at all, you can start target training her inside the cage - you can even train her to step up on a stick through the bars but, if you can't, don't worry.

Now, you should let her out to fly a bit every day and for this, you should birdproof the room where she is kept making sure there is nothing dangerous for her and that all doors and windows are secured. If you house is a busy one with people coming in and out of rooms all the time, make a sign to post outside the doors so people will know not to open it. If you do this in the evening without turning on any artificial lights, as the sunset deepens and night starts to fall, she will go back inside her cage for her dinner and roosting. If it doesn't happen the first night, leave her out and wait for her to go in at sunrise but, if you can't for some reason, wait until it's completely dark and go into the room with a flashlight to locate her. Keep the flashlight pointing to the floor and just move it up very quickly every now and then to see where she is. Once you found her, gently grab her with a towel and put her back in her cage. Allow a teeny tiny amount of light in the room so she can find her roosting perch so she can settle down for the night. In time, she will learn to go back to her cage on her own and you won't need to do this - AND after she trusts you and you train her to step up, you can then put her in yourself so she can eat her dinner and go to sleep.
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby GozoFran » Wed May 14, 2014 2:39 am

Thank you for your reply. I am very encouraged we have only had her a few days and she is responding to us very well. When we talk to her she is now coming over to the side of the cage instead of running away. When we go out we get a greeting when we come home think she maybe is copying the others its quite a chorus, think she has been hungry as well eating like there is no tomorrow. Such I shame she is a beautiful bird. I am finding a wealth of information here pleased I found you.
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby Wolf » Wed May 14, 2014 4:15 am

I do agree with the advice that Pajarita gave to you 100%, and maybe I erred in my advice as I assumed that you were already using the basic taming technique and just needed to get in to clean the cage. My bad.
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby GozoFran » Sat May 17, 2014 5:31 am

The next question is the most important right now. How do I clean her cage without getting my hand shredded. As soon as I try she goes into attack mode and zeros in like a little missile don't think I have any more room for plasters on my hand. :irn:
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby Wolf » Sat May 17, 2014 6:07 am

My previous post suggested one way, apparently not a viable one. You could try to clean the cage when she is out of it.
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby Pajarita » Sat May 17, 2014 10:01 am

Get her a LARGE cage so she can climb up while you do the bottom (you can get the food and water bowls from the little doors on the sides, right?), put a little bit of a millet spray up there to distract her, and wear a glove in the hand that goes in.

But, if you can let her out and clean it while she is out flying, it would be better because the less you antagonize her, the sooner she will like you.
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby GozoFran » Fri May 23, 2014 8:11 am

Thanks for the help. As far as letting her out is concerned. Would you take her into another room. We have a Monk Parrot as well or as some call them Quakers. He is very tame and loving and I do not want him to get hurt he is out of his cage most of the time. Do you think she would attack him. I am thinking it may be best to let her out the first time in the large bathroom nothing there to hurt her. What do you think.
:roll:
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Re: Help with Indian Ringneck

Postby Wolf » Fri May 23, 2014 8:28 am

First rule that you should never ever bend, break, or ignore is all birds must undergo a 30 day quarantine, this is to protect both the new bird and the birds that you already have. So I would let her out in a room to herself. Later on, after the quarantine period is past, if you choose to introduce the birds it must be done slowly and only under strict supervision. That is rule number 2, it will protect your birds from harming each other.

I hope that this proves helpful to you.
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