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Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

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Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

Postby Lenin's Grave » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:16 am

Good moorning everybody (the questions are in the last paragrapf, if you do not wish to read all the story),

Since the loss of my 10 year-old cockatiel some weeks ago, I recently came across the opportunity to adopt a Blue-Crowned Conure. It had been my "dream" since I saw the film Paulie as a kid and now, being 22 years old, I thought I could not let such occasion pass considering that I also wanted an adult parrot.

An acquaintance told me that she knew a woman who was selling her 3 year-old conure because she was kind of tired of it. I went to the woman's small apartment and was surprised to see that she kept a lot of birds in different dirty cages in her living room. The floor was full of seeds everywhere, the television was too loud and a labrador wouldn't stop barking. I inmediatly spoted Birdy (I never call him by his name to leave the past behind) in a cage too small even for a cockatiel. The woman's daughter was putting her fingers through the cage's bars and he was chasing after her to bite her, very aggressively. She told me that, since very young, the bird had always been that grumpy and aggressive and, the most important, that he never learned to fly.

The woman chased him with a towel without any respect, shouting at the bird because he was trying to bite her (I told her a few times to be gentle with the bird since I could not stand such brutality quietly) until she was able to pretty much throw him into my carrier. I gave her the money (she wanted 100 dolars to get rid of him, as she said) and I left the place a bit shocked.

While still on the train, I would gently murmur to him with a high pitched voice and he seemed to calm down. I slowly showed him my fingers, bit by bit, and after a couple of hard bites (I did not react nor withdraw) he totally stoped biting. He would not even try. At home and within his aviary he acctepted treats from my fingers and never intended to bite anymore.

He was not "wild" (I don't actually think him to be grumpy nor aggressive), but he was never taught any of the basics, not even to step up, not even on a perch. He wouldn't even approach the perch and what I firstly thought was fear, I understood was actually insecurity of falling down (he always checks that the perches are steady with his beak before going on them).

I started his training the next day very very gently and rewarded any minimum effort, at the same time trying to be as patient as I could and not to insist on him too much, and after one hour, the first training session, he would step up on the perch fearless, but still rejects the fingers, hands and arms (I got him past thursday 5th).

Thanks for reading! I came here to ask for tips and advises to bond with him, and mostly on how to deal and help him with the fact that he cannot fly (I'm clueless since all of my birds until now were always flighted and I'm against clipping without a good reason). His cage is in my bedroom and we're much of the day together, since I'm a student and I am the 70% of the day in my bedroom studying.

Note: I did not target trained him and I don't think I will because I do not understand how the stick and clipper thing works, and I'm not sure I will make the bird understand it if I, myself, can't. All of my birds have always been perfectly trained though, in step up, recall, out-door freeflight and even roll back with my Quaker parrot (he does not step up, he flies and lands on my hand instead).

Any help and feedback will be welcomed!

Here a picture of him on his favorite perch:

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Billy "The Cyclone" Bee, the paraplegic Quaker Parrot.
Birdy, the Blue-Crowned Conure that has never learned to fly.
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Re: Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

Postby Wolf » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:54 am

Not really a parrot cage, but seems to be large enough. Are both of your bids in this cage, I thought I saw the other bird, but am not sure?
I find that the best way to bond with a bird is a lot of time spent just hanging out with and talking to them. I have three birds that came from abusive homes before they came here, and there simply is/ was no other way to reach them and earn any trust except to hang out and talk to them.
Even though you don't know much about target training, it seems to me that you have a pretty good idea of what you are doing with your birds. I do think that you would do better by doing a couple of 15 to 20 min. training sessions with him as opposed to the longer hour long session.

This link will give you the basics of clicker and target training if you decide to try it.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=227

Hope this will help.
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Re: Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

Postby cml » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:49 am

Good advice from Wolf, and be sure to look into that link he provided on target training. It's an awesome tool to have up your sleeve when it comes to parrot ownership.

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Re: Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

Postby Pajarita » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:03 am

Oh, my goodness, those poor birds, yours and the ones that are still in that hell hole!

Yes, one hour is waaaayyy too long a training session for a bird but, personally, I would do no training whatsoever and just concentrate on reassuring and bonding with him. This little bird has gone through so much in his short life and has had such am awful start on life that he needs the time to calm down, recoup, find his place and realize that you are not like those other TERRIBLE people. Parrots don't do this overnight, or in a week or even in a month. And target training doesn't help much with this process. It takes time (honeymoon period is usually one to two months). And it's always better to give them the time. They are smart and they do put two and two together but a bird acquired as a baby and mistreated for the first three years of his life (I shudder to think the huge stress this poor baby has been living under!) has no 'good' point of reference and he needs time to find it on his own.

Just talk and sing to him, give him treats, let him out to fly and simply let him be until he takes the initiative (I hope your are quarantining him because his previous home doesn't sound 'safe' at all). They are like abused children, they need and want to love and be loved but they distrust everybody so they need to learn to trust first and then love - and that takes time and is something that only they can do.

Just as a note for future reference and not a scolding in any way: if there is a next time, tell the owner you want to move the bird from his old cage into your carrier and bring your own towel with you. That's what I always do.
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Re: Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

Postby Lenin's Grave » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:16 am

Thanks Wolf, cml and pajarita, you all are right.

No, I don't keep them together for three main reasons: because Billy, the Quaker, is paraplegic and I keep him in a special small cage given by the avian vet, almost always open since he can fly; because I find the cage perfect sized for one conure (but too small for two birds), and because Birdy is still in "quarantine" (as pajarita has guessed): he was in a dirty environment with lots of other birds and has never been checked by the vet, so it's possible for him to have some health issues, like fleas or even psittacosis, so the two birds have still not been in contact. I made an appointment with the avian vet that treated Billy and in two weeks he'll get checked.

When I put the radio on, I come by his cage singing and softly clapping my hands and fingers, and he approaches me and starts making loud noises and imitating my voice, with his eyes pinning and his head feathers up as he bows rhythmically. I supose it means he's excited, what do you think? Today he has begun to play with his toy.

Thanks for the advice on the duration of training, I'll fix that in future sessions, this forum is amazing (you all are) and is helping me a LOT. And yes, I'm willing to do my best to make him the happiest bird on planet.
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Re: Tips for taming Birdy, a rehomed and neglected Blue-Crowned

Postby Pajarita » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:24 am

You seem to have the right attitude and doing all the right things - and he is still so young that I am sure he will overcome his terrible previous life.
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