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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby liz » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:47 pm

Pajarita wrote:As long as you continue putting your hand in/on his cage, the training will not work because this scares him/her.

I'll look in my basement and see if there is an appropriate cage that I could send to you.



I thought about that but I wonder if the shipping would cost just as much as ordering a new cage.
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby pscindy_13 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:03 pm

Thanks Liz for your kind words :3

Omg ok. I'll stop putting my hand in his cage and I think this might also be a problem, I use my hands in the direction for him to move back into his cage.... but I have no other way to put him back. The chopsticks idea might work so I'm going to try that and hopefully he wont get more scared.

Thanks so much for your cage offer btw. But yeah, like liz says. It might cost as much as buying a new cage. :/
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby Wolf » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:55 pm

It might cost that much, but I really want to find out the measurements of the cage so that I know how urgent this is for the birds well being. People just don't know how much the size of their living quarters can affect them. It really is all about helping you and your bird but the more reluctant you are in providing requested information the harder it is for us to know what we can do or in other cases of how to advise you.
I just recently sent money to Florida to help pay the medical expenses of a bird that died, because the owner would not take it to the vet until it was too late. We honestly do try to help when we can, so don't write us off.
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby pscindy_13 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:20 pm

Oh no! The poor bird :(
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby pscindy_13 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:02 am

Update~

- I do believe tamaki is a mouth old.

- tamaki is getting sad again!!!

- no trust progress

- still won't let me get near him

Sigh. This is so frustrating.... there are times I just want to give up on this bird but I feel to bad to just give up on him. it's been a while now that I got him and I still can't get him on a sick or finger to do the step up training :/
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby liz » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:28 pm

You can't give up. Even if you can never touch him you can't let him be past around.
You are so stressed out about him. Stop trying so hard. Remember that when he is ready he will come to you. Yes it takes longer this way but then you have a true bond.

Myrtle was treated badly for the first year of her life. She came to me scared, skinny, dirty and clipped. She was really scared of everything including me. She kept testing her wings by jumping off the top of the cage. Once on the floor she walked to me but not to be picked up. She climbed up me to my shoulder (I kept my hands behind my back). I would then give her a ride back to her cage. She would step off my shoulder and I did not even touch her. She was still scared but she had accepted me as the safest thing available. After a few times of this I started with the "tickle tickle".

Paj, a new flight cage on Amazon is $104. I sent my son 2 pill bottles through UPS. It cost me $65.
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby pscindy_13 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:10 pm

Ohhhh.... TamakI does that too but I always thought he wanted to come see what was going on. Boy was I wrong lol.

Kk, I wont give up on him! I just hope one day to have that bond so I can take him outside with me :3
I wanted to buy him those flightsuits so he wont use the bathroom on me and I can take him with me anywhere that's calm, also cause it's safer.
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby Wolf » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:03 pm

Oh wow, I am now in a bad position. They do not make a flight suit or harness small enough for your bird. The upper weight range for a masked lovebird is 50 grams and the smallest harness is for a minimum of 75 grams.
As I said earlier, I think that something is not being done as we have suggested in the taming of your bird. I am getting hesitant about asking you anything as you don't give me any accurate information to go on to help you and then if I keep asking you feel that I am attacking you. So I don't know how to approach this in order to help you.
I found a flight cage new for $150 that I am thinking about for you ,but still don't have the information about the cage that I requested from you. I am also afraid of your response should I request your home address in a pm not on the forum so that I could get it shipped to you.
I just don't know what to do. I want so much to help you and your bird, but if you will not give me honest and accurate information, I don't know how to answer you and help you. I am an honest, straight forward person who is also sometimes too blunt which causes me an occasional issue and my answers are based on facts which must be provided to me from the party asking for help and from research and personal experience. All I can get from you is generalities which are open to interpretation and not on facts that are not. I ask you to tell me the schedule for you and the bird and I get some mornings I am home and some days I am home all day. I ask for the measurements of a cage and I get it big enough. Nothing, no facts always trying to avoid answering my questions.
I think that my only option is just as I tell you about your bird, don't try to force anything and be patient, wait for the bird to come to you. So I think that is what I will do. I will watch this thread and wait for you to decide to be straight with me before I say or do anything more. So you let me know when you want to interact on this forum with me, I will be here for you when the time comes.
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby pscindy_13 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:09 pm

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Tamaki's cage


Hahaha!!! I finally learned how to place pics! >:D

I HAVE been honest and I did tell you my schedule and in full detail. Excuse me that It's boring and it's not what you wanted to hear but there isn't much to write when your gone half of the day on a week and can only laydown next to him on the weekends. His scared so i can't do anything but open his cage to let him out on my bed.

I told you many times that I'm still trying the food method but it's still not working and yesterday I tryed the stick thing and it didn't work out even tho I left it next to him for the rest of the day.

I'm not a perfect person who can give perfect answers. I'm a kid who is trying her best to answer and trying her best to bond with her bird and help the bird.
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Re: how to tame my lovebird. help!

Postby Wolf » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:42 pm

Yes, you are young and just barely a teen ager but you can tell time, right? and you are aware that schedules are based on time. Some things are only going to take 15 minutes of your time and other things are going to take longer. Birds don't like change they like the same things to happen at the same times each day. Their internal clock is accurate up to 15 to 20 minute intervals. Please try to understand that my being home all morning is the same as you being home all morning, but then I am up at 3 am and you are still sleeping until ?? So there is a massive difference in what we can do in those mornings. This is where detail and facts come in. It makes no sense for me to tell you to feed your bird at 7 am if you don't get up before then. Does this make any sense to you? Add to this that you may have this or that to do on a given morning and we don't know how to help you schedule bird things around these things. We don't need to know what you may have to do just the time to schedule around. This is detail. We are just getting to know about each other and I really do expect some hesitations and some misunderstandings and it takes both of us to work towards understanding so that we can get past them. Just as you feel that repeated asking for the same information is being put upon, I feel that if I must repeatedly ask for the same information that you don't want the help. And we are both probably wrong. So what are your thoughts about how do we fix this?
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