Teaching not to bite

[Wolf]

I see why you are thinking that this diet is not as high in protein and fat as it actually is. You are not taking into account that the pellets contain high amounts of both protein and fat or that seeds are also high in proteins and fat.
Birds dying from fatty liver disease, heart disease and kidney disease were the reason that pellets were invented in the first place, they were intended to replace the then current all seed diet that was causing these diseases because they were high in protein and fat. More exactly the birds were picking out their favorite seeds and not eating all of them and these were the seeds with the most protein in them.. The food companies decided to fix this issue by grinding the seeds so that the birds could not pick out their favorite seeds and then they started adding dried vegetables and so on. The thing that they didn't do was to reduce the amount of protein in the pellets with the result that pellets also are high protein food, causing the same issues.
I am just sharing what I know, you can look it up if you want to and I tried to show you this once before and you were rude to me so you use the information as you see fit, or not.

[ParrotsForLife]

I see why you are thinking that this diet is not as high in protein and fat as it actually is. You are not taking into account that the pellets contain high amounts of both protein and fat or that seeds are also high in proteins and fat.
Birds dying from fatty liver disease, heart disease and kidney disease were the reason that pellets were invented in the first place, they were intended to replace the then current all seed diet that was causing these diseases because they were high in protein and fat. More exactly the birds were picking out their favorite seeds and not eating all of them and these were the seeds with the most protein in them.. The food companies decided to fix this issue by grinding the seeds so that the birds could not pick out their favorite seeds and then they started adding dried vegetables and so on. The thing that they didn't do was to reduce the amount of protein in the pellets with the result that pellets also are high protein food, causing the same issues.
I am just sharing what I know, you can look it up if you want to and I tried to show you this once before and you were rude to me so you use the information as you see fit, or not.

How exactly was I rude to you.Ok im gonna be more specific now its not a seed mix she gets its a bag of nuts its called Exotic nuts or something they are for African greys but some seeds are in it too we dont always buy it and we give it to her when shes good.The thing she does eat all the time is pellets and thats all she eats for the day just pellets and sometimes we give her veg or fruit not too much and not too little.Do you get what im saying now all she eats is pellets but some days she gets the other stuff.

[liz]

WOW!!
Why are you jumping on me? I use the kid with junk food as an example. I didn't mean you were feeding him junk food.
Seed, pellets, nuts are all high protein and high fat. The only meat a bird would get in the wild would be a few bugs during mating season. A companion bird can be harmed by high protein.

It has only been a year since I changed to a low protein diet. I was feeding seed, nuts and scramble egg with their veggies because that is what they wanted and that is what the prior owner was giving them. I did stop feeding them cheese twists and jelly beans like she had done.

Rambo had been a walker. He did not have flight feathers. At the age of 20+ he had such a good molt that he grew flight feathers. He is in the process now of learning how to use them. The diet change has done wonders for him.

This info came to me when I said my cockatiels have been mating all the time. Pajarita told me their was something really wrong with them.

I am not saying he has been harmed by his diet. I am just saying that it will cause problems in the future.

[ParrotsForLife]

WOW!!
Why are you jumping on me? I use the kid with junk food as an example. I didn't mean you were feeding him junk food.
Seed, pellets, nuts are all high protein and high fat. The only meat a bird would get in the wild would be a few bugs during mating season. A companion bird can be harmed by high protein.

It has only been a year since I changed to a low protein diet. I was feeding seed, nuts and scramble egg with their veggies because that is what they wanted and that is what the prior owner was giving them. I did stop feeding them cheese twists and jelly beans like she had done.

Rambo had been a walker. He did not have flight feathers. At the age of 20+ he had such a good molt that he grew flight feathers. He is in the process now of learning how to use them. The diet change has done wonders for him.

This info came to me when I said my cockatiels have been mating all the time. Pajarita told me their was something really wrong with them.

I am not saying he has been harmed by his diet. I am just saying that it will cause problems in the future.

I know you are all concerned but honestly yous are reading my posts wrong she only gets pellets thats it everyday but some days not always we give her veg and fruit and rarely she gets chicken,egg or nuts and seeds.We never have egg in the house because nobody likes eggs except the birds so we just get egg whenevet we decide too.And sometimes when my mam goes to the petstore she gets Tiko a new toy or Nuts and seeds which are in a bag together and she rarely gets them and we keep the smaller nuts for training and the big ones to give to her when shes good.Now do you all get it.Im sorry that I didnt explain what I feed her more clearly and you guys know my cockatiels are on a good diet and I know what a good diet is.Also its my mam that feeds her most of the time.And I dont think Tiko would ever wear a harness she dosent like being touched on the body at all so we put her cage in the garden.

[Wolf]

Most Greys do not like being touched and even in the wild with their mate, touching is extremely limited. Please do the research as free feeding any parrot pellets every day will caused liver disease, heart disease, kidney disease and possibly diabetes. This is proven fact and all I can do is let you know and hope that you will do the research yourself as you seem to think that I have some reason to lie to you. All I get from doing this is an occasional thank you and the knowledge that I am doing all that I can to improve the lives of these bird, I also get bad reactions sometimes because I can't honestly tell a bird owner what they want to hear. But that is fine, I am here for the birds benefit, not the humans.

[ParrotsForLife]

Most Greys do not like being touched and even in the wild with their mate, touching is extremely limited. Please do the research as free feeding any parrot pellets every day will caused liver disease, heart disease, kidney disease and possibly diabetes. This is proven fact and all I can do is let you know and hope that you will do the research yourself as you seem to think that I have some reason to lie to you. All I get from doing this is an occasional thank you and the knowledge that I am doing all that I can to improve the lives of these bird, I also get bad reactions sometimes because I can't honestly tell a bird owner what they want to hear. But that is fine, I am here for the birds benefit, not the humans.

Omg I never knew that I thought pellets were healthy thats why my mam stopped feeding her seed.

[Wolf]

That statement makes no sense.

[ParrotsForLife]

That statement makes no sense.

My mam stopped feeding her seed because she thought pellets were healthier im gonna show her what you said so she can see and fix Tikos diet.

[ParrotsForLife]

I told my mam about the pellets the petstore are the ones who told us to put her on a all pellet diet.If it werent for you I never would have known about the pellets.What do you recommend we feed her.

[Pajarita]

My dear, you need to learn to read our answers with an open mind, research what we are saying and think before you reply because you tend to get way too defensive and accuse other people of the same thing you are doing: not reading carefully.

Pellets are better than seeds but that doesn't mean that you can free-feed them (this means you fill up a bowl with them in the morning and leave it there all day long which is what you are doing) because, as parrots in their natural habitat don't find plentiful sources of high protein, they are hard-wired to gorge on it when they do so, when you free-feed high protein, they will always fill up on it, leaving very little room for the healthy food (veggies, fruits and leafy greens). Animal protein (turkey, chicken, etc) is a no-no (and it doesn't matter that it's once a week or even more seldom than that) because parrots did not evolve to eat meat so nature never gave their bodies a mechanism to get rid of the extra bad cholesterol the bird ingests when they eat meat so they end up with high cholesterol (cardio vascular disease) and fatty liver disease (hepatic lipidosis). Meat is most definitely NOT good for them. I do feed mine grated hard-boiled eggs but only three times a year, just a teensy little bit each and only during breeding season.

Grays do tend to be a one person bird but they do establish friendship bonds with other individuals. I have two, Sophie CAG and Pookey TAG. Sophie loves me but likes my husband a lot and would gladly go with him, perch on his shoulder, kiss his cheek, etc - while Pookey loves my husband but likes me, too (kisses me and rubs her face on mine) so with your mother's, it's just a matter of winning her over.