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Ignoring bites?

Postby Chantilly » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:52 am

Hi, I am typing this in regards to ignoring bites. I personally believe this is wrong, but I suppose it depends. I just want some different sides to see some different sides to it.

If your bird is biting you because it is scared and does not want to be near or train with you, you should accept that and give it its space, no? If you don't is this not flooding? If it does not understand what you are trying to train it and bites you, it is its way to say NO!

If your bird is bored and has had enough of being on you or training with you keep forcing it to continue or stay on you and it bites, then you should accept that and let it do what it wants. Because if you don't the conversation ends with a pissed of angry bird and a frustrated owner.

If your bird is biting you because it has never formed a relationship with you, or you have in one way or another broken your relationship and you want it to be magically your friend, you should understand how it is feeling and start over

If your bird is hormonal and in a bad mood and biting, you should simply give it its space or allot more time.

If your bird is just in a bad habit of biting you shouldn't go mad at him but start slowly working with him, beginning once again with target training and lots of treats, and work your way to a better bird.

Just my opinion, but I don't think you should ever ignore bites because they are the way your bird tells you it isn't happy, they cant speak (well, not all of them can, and it doesn't necessarily know the definition of what it is saying) ...... The only time ignoring a bite in my point of view might benefit the trust relationship is in the last paragraph, if even then.. the rest are flooding. Just my opinion on the subject, I hope it is fine that I am posting my opinion on this. What are your thoughts on ignoring bites?
I never have a problem with biting with my two princesses, and I think that is because I listen to the warning bite and back of, thats if I even get to the point of a warning bite, most of the time I can see them getting frustrated or bored of something and then just chill or do something else.
Sorry, just something that has been on my mind a lot.

oh also, Tilly would so not be this tame after being put into a cardboard box! She would flip out a thousand times! Sooo cute! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9akf1hjmGt8
And anthough she be little, she is fierce ~Shakespeare
- Tilly & Shrek
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Re: Ignoring bites?

Postby liz » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:51 am

Even though Rambo is socialized, he bit my earlobe when a man came too close and he could not reach to bite him.

Myrtle's first visit to the vet she was toweled to trim her nails. I was stroking her beak to comfort her when she grabbed my finger for leverage to pull her way out. Another time she got her food caught in a hanging toy. She grabbed my finger to try to pull her way out. I did not react to those bites. She was scared enough at that time. She likes to chew on me like a teething baby. When she gets too rough I say "owe" to let her know and she will stop.
Never scream when you get bit. If your bird is a biter he will see it as a way to get the best of you. I did go through one day that she bit me all day and brought blood. Every time I told her owe. She never did it before or since. I chalk it up to her getting out of the wrong side of the bed.

Rambo used to flog Aunt Betty because he could make her scream. They love noises no matter what they are.
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Re: Ignoring bites?

Postby Chantilly » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:54 am

liz wrote:Even though Rambo is socialized, he bit my earlobe when a man came too close and he could not reach to bite him.
Myrtle's first visit to the vet she was toweled to trim her nails. I was stroking her beak to comfort her when she grabbed my finger for leverage to pull her way out. Another time she got her food caught in a hanging toy. She grabbed my finger to try to pull her way out. I did not react to those bites. She was scared enough at that time. She likes to chew on me like a teething baby. When she gets too rough I say "owe" to let her know and she will stop.
Never scream when you get bit. If your bird is a biter he will see it as a way to get the best of you.

Rambo used to flog Aunt Betty because he could make her scream. They love noises no matter what they are.

Thankyou :D Shrek teeths on me too, it is so cute :D
Ok I agree that those are good times to ignore a bite :thumbsup:
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Re: Ignoring bites?

Postby Pajarita » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:53 pm

I don't believe in ignoring a bite but I also don't believe in not showing pain. Parrots are highly intelligent and extremely empathetic animals so not showing that he/she hurt you, even when they did not really mean to do it, is not the right way to go, in my personal opinion. I always say OWWW! when they do. And they know that this is an exclamation of pain because they would all shut up and look at me and the 'offending' bird, and either comfort me or defend me. Besides, it's good to show them that they don't need to be rough to get their point across. I don't blame them for accidents but I make sure they understand that it hurts.
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Re: Ignoring bites?

Postby Chantilly » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:39 am

Pajarita wrote:I don't believe in ignoring a bite but I also don't believe in not showing pain. Parrots are highly intelligent and extremely empathetic animals so not showing that he/she hurt you, even when they did not really mean to do it, is not the right way to go, in my personal opinion. I always say OWWW! when they do. And they know that this is an exclamation of pain because they would all shut up and look at me and the 'offending' bird, and either comfort me or defend me. Besides, it's good to show them that they don't need to be rough to get their point across. I don't blame them for accidents but I make sure they understand that it hurts.

Great advice, :thumbsup: Thankyou Pajarita!
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