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Bluffing

Postby Mick » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:54 pm

We have 2 alexandrines one is just over a year old and the other is 8 months old.
The 8 month old one is becoming challenging, biting etc.
I've read a little about bluffing and I would be interested to hear what age other owners birds started this phase, how long it lasted, and how you managed it.
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Pajarita » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:56 am

I can't help you with bluffing because I've never had a bird that did it. If any of my birds offered to bite, he was being real serious about it :lol:

But, if I were you, I would not be trying to interact with them. It's too early, you just got them a couple of days ago and any attempt that results in one of them trying to bite is not recommended at this point in time as it's completely counteractive [it will only teach the bird to get its point across by biting]. Are these birds both DNA'd males? Because if they are a male/female pair, I doubt you will be able to handle them once they become sexually mature...
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Mick » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:35 pm

They aren't DNA'd. But out of interest why wouldn't I be able to handle them when they're mature?
Both are tame and very steady birds.
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Navre » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:53 am

We had a male/female pair of Alexandrines. They were adults and could be handled. The male talked quite a bit. We learned his name because he told us.
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Pajarita » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:03 am

Maybe 'handle' was the wrong word for it because any bird can be handled - it all depends on the degree and the bird. I mean, I have mate-bonded pair of amazons with an abused and aggressive male and a wild-caught female that are not people-friendly and I can 'handle' them but I don't do it the way that I handle the pet ones... But, in any case, an adult [you have babies] mate-bonded male/female pair is harder to handle than a single bird - most especially during breeding season.

If they were not DNA'd, I suggest you find unisex names for them because you might have a male and a female, two males or two females...
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Mick » Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:24 pm

Yes they have unisex names. I had 2 senegals which I reared from chicks. They lived together and were still friendly once mature, except one which really favoured my wife.... no loyalty haha.
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Pajarita » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:25 am

Yes, but senegals are completely different from IRN's. Personally, I think they are the ultimate companion parrot...
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Mick » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:57 pm

Really??? In my experience they can be very one person birds.
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Re: Bluffing

Postby Pajarita » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:11 pm

:lol: Well, that's precisely why they are the ultimate companion bird: because they bond so very deeply with their human! No parrot is a true family pet - there is no such thing! You can have a parrot that is so content with its life and so sweet-tempered that it will interact with several people and not bite but that doesn't mean that the parrot doesn't have a chosen one - they all do. I have three parrots that are like that: the female GCC, the female African Gray and one of the old female amazons - then there are the ones that are one person exclusively but not at all unfriendly to people they know [female senegal, female redbelly, cockatoo, caique and the other old female amazon], third category is the handeable by most people but not really what one would call 'friendly-friendly' as they need to be 'stepped up' on a stick: male senegal, male redbelly - and last but not least are the ones that can only be handled carefully and from afar by me and nobody else so far [but not because I think I am the only one that can do it but because they have simply gotten used only to me] and those are the 'mean' mate-bonded pair of zons. I don't count poor Pablo Peachfront, the plets or the budgies because they are in their own world and don't really want anything to do with humans except as their providers.
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