Getting Jovie to step up- hand or perch?

[Azure Hanyo]

I have a question. What does one use to get a disabled parrot out of its cage? With Galileo, Cloud, and Archimedes I just open the cage, put my hand in, and they hop right on to my finger. I have no idea how to approach this issue with Jovie. I want to use my hand, as targeting to a perch seems impersonal to me, but I don't know if it is practical to expect her to be able to perch on my finger with one good foot and a splayed foot. Do I try and approach her with my palm, and see if she will climb on? I am thinking that is the answer, but I'm not quite sure.

Any suggestions?

[pchela]

It's so difficult to give advice when I can't see for myself how she moves but I'd say if your instinct is to offer her your palm, then that's what you should try first. Sorry, that's not too helpful...

[jounderw]

yeah its hard to say since we cant see the bird move, but I am sure its hard. I would offer the same advice and try to get her to step on to the palm versus stepping up to the fingers. Let us know how everything is going with your bird.

[entrancedbymyGCC]

When you observe her in the cage, what seems comfortable to her in terms of her stability on various surfaces in the cage? How does she use her good foot, bad foot and beak when changng locations in the cage? It doesn't seem to me so much about using a "thing" vs. a hand or finger, but about what usage of the hand/finger/thing is likely to give her a secure place to move to and a way to get there that is similar to her natural mode of locomotion. You can probably shape the method later, but to start with I'd try to capture her most natural way of changing locations, so the only varioable is the use of a hand or handheld location, not trying to change the way she moves. Am I making sense?

My thoughts... for what they are worth...

[zazanomore]

Maybe you should post a video, so we can get a better idea?

[Azure Hanyo]

Hey guys sorry I got behind with answering. I have yet to get Jovie to step up for me, but she will now tolerate my hand in her cage without clicking/hissing/generally getting upset. And she takes food from my hand with my hand inside the cage. So the next step is getting her to come out for me!

Zaza- I would post a video but I only have my camera phone- and it is horrid and very pixelated. Jovie really doesn't have terrible locomotion now that she is in her new cage!!!! She can climb and perch and get around and has even started to use her splayed foot to hold food! (In her last cage she would sit on the bottom of the cage to eat...but um...that wasn't a good cage for her whatsoever.)

I think I might try getting her to step up on my finger like any other bird, but use my left hand so she can grab onto my thumb with her splayed foot. See, how she perches on her rope I have it bent in a way that she can perch flat if she wants, and sometimes she perches flat and wants her splayed foot holding the cage bars- so with the bendy perch she can just grab a part that inclines. It works great and I LOVE rope perches now.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions!