Biting

[Jontchaav]

Well i Can give you à tip... Have hon stand on your hand, and go closer with your other hand, when he reaches for it to bite, you tilt your hand causeing
Him to lose balance, do this à few Times, or while you touch him hold à pen or something, as distraction..
With the tilt make sure he just loses balance and starts flapping the wings, NOT so he falls off.
Regards

[meowingaround]

That's a very good idea

[Michael]

No, it's a pretty terrible idea. Especially if the parrot is clipped. It may cause it to use its beak to get a grip and will make it more scared of the owner. Yes, this technique can be used to punish biting behavior in otherwise tame and well trained parrots. But no, it is not advisable for an aggressive, rehomed, or problematic parrot. Unless you really know what you're doing and can maintain a successful relationship with the parrot (and just want to minimize beaking/nipping behavior), this is not a technique I would advise using as it can easily do more harm than good.

The lesson of not nipping is learned if 9/10 times the parrot is having a positive interaction when on hands and only gets punished on the rare occasion that it bites or nips. However, if the majority of interactions are negative, then the parrot will just try to avoid hands and bite preemptively to avoid being picked up in the first place!

[Michael]

OKAY MY NAME IS NICHOLAS AND MY FIANCE AND I HAVE A NANDAY CONURE HER NAME IS PEAPSY SHE BEAUTIFUL AND I WANT HER TO TRUST ME BUT SHE HATES FINGERS SHE WILL BITE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS I NEVER HAD A BIRD BEFORE AND THE FACT OF HER BITING ME IS KINDA SCARING ME I WANT TO FIGURE A EASY WAY FOR ME AND HER INTERACT SHE HAD A PAST OF GUYS AND SHE DONT LIKE GUYS ANYMORE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPEND TO HER IN THE PAST SHE WAS GIVEN AS A CHRISTMAS PRESENT AND I JUST DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET HER STOP BITING AND ACTUALLY TO START TRUSTING MY FIANCE AND I BOTH SO IF YOU KNOW HOW TO HELP POST ME BACK PLEASE

Use positive reinforcement based target training to teach alternative-to-biting behavior.

[meowingaround]

No, it's a pretty terrible idea. Especially if the parrot is clipped. It may cause it to use its beak to get a grip and will make it more scared of the owner. Yes, this technique can be used to punish biting behavior in otherwise tame and well trained parrots. But no, it is not advisable for an aggressive, rehomed, or problematic parrot. Unless you really know what you're doing and can maintain a successful relationship with the parrot (and just want to minimize beaking/nipping behavior), this is not a technique I would advise using as it can easily do more harm than good.

The lesson of not nipping is learned if 9/10 times the parrot is having a positive interaction when on hands and only gets punished on the rare occasion that it bites or nips. However, if the majority of interactions are negative, then the parrot will just try to avoid hands and bite preemptively to avoid being picked up in the first place!

I suppose I'm confused as to what exactly I should do. HE's not a nasty bird, it's this issue with dominance. And we seem to go back and forth on it. And the funny thing is I know when I'm top bird and feel perfectly safe with him, and I also know when he's top bird and am almost terrified to try anything.

I have no idea if it's relevant but there's a couple other issues as well. I'm not sure if they tie into this so I'll mention them.

Windy is not an explorer, in fact when he's awake he wants me all day. If I leave the room he screams and screams. Also he's not a bird who seems to have much confidence in the world.

He was clipped for flight when I brought him home, only apparently it was backwards flight =( We went through six months of horrible blood feather issues resulting from that. He had a bad bloodfeather break due to a backwards flight, the vet pulled it he also clipped the remaining feathers *for balance* only he clipped them so close to the vein that my bird couldn't flap his wings without bleeding.

I ended up having to put him in a large aquarium with special lighting until he got new feathers and had better balance. We obviously have a new vet now.

I'm not sure if that is related at all but it's an important aspect of his life so...

[meowingaround]

Also he is trained for step up only we use uppy uppy

[Jontchaav]

No, it's a pretty terrible idea. Especially if the parrot is clipped. It may cause it to use its beak to get a grip and will make it more scared of the owner. Yes, this technique can be used to punish biting behavior in otherwise tame and well trained parrots. But no, it is not advisable for an aggressive, rehomed, or problematic parrot. Unless you really know what you're doing and can maintain a successful relationship with the parrot (and just want to minimize beaking/nipping behavior), this is not a technique I would advise using as it can easily do more harm than good.

The lesson of not nipping is learned if 9/10 times the parrot is having a positive interaction when on hands and only gets punished on the rare occasion that it bites or nips. However, if the majority of interactions are negative, then the parrot will just try to avoid hands and bite preemptively to avoid being picked up in the first place!

If it can stand on his hand without reacting and biteing then he should use this technique while touching and petting him with his other hand, theres a diffrence in nipping and biteing...All parrots nip. You cannot train that away, its the parrots way of touching things and feeling them.

Biteing is the last way of self defence, if its anoyyed by the owner it will fly away and stand somewhere else..
Either you have cornered the parrot or you are being hasty when reaching for him.
Causeing it to loose balance (by wobbling / tilting hand) is negative reinforcement. So it will stop the biteing behavior. They dont like loosing their balance, and if you do this two or three times it will instead of biteing chose to step up on your hand, and you can give him a treat or something.

It might not be the most positive experience, but it will IMMEDIATE stop biteing..

[Michael]

It sounds like the bird could use some more positive experiences in its life rather than punishment.

[meowingaround]

It sounds like the bird could use some more positive experiences in its life rather than punishment.

That breaks my heart... and I agree completely. It's too bad I didn't find this site first instead of some of the others that encouraged me to punish punish punish.

I didn't get a baby bird to be a brute or bully him around, but I think I have sometimes, for medical reasons or to establish dominance so he would stop hurting me. That's a nasty cycle: I'm afraid of him, he's afraid of me, and round and round we go.

We still have a strong bond though and when he's smooching up next to my face with all his feathers fluffed out .. I know he trusts me, and that is priceless and everything I need to begin making him feel safer in all other aspects of his life. It's most surely not the best bond though

And neither of us is so afraid we've given up on the other so that's something

[Jontchaav]

Hes not living his everyday life by getting tilted, his question was to stop the biteing not building the trust or getting to know the bird, so in order to teach him to bite he will have to use some kind of way that makes him stop biteing fast...
Belive it or not, but sometimes you have to be harsh, parrots are like kids.. Would you let your kid bite you for several days?

I guess your parrots cant bite so hard since they arent very huge birds, but trust me, if you want a bigger bird to stop biteing - you teach it instantly to stop, else it will be stiches everyday.