Understanding the mind of your grey and other parrots

[shanlung]

Understanding the mind of your grey and other parrots


2600 years ago, Sun Tzu wrote his Ping Fa better known perhaps to you as 'The Art of War'

One fundamental underlie his thoughts in his PingFa.

知 己 知 彼
zhi ji zhi bi

百 战 百 胜
bai zhan bai sheng

or

Know yourself, Know your opponent
A hundred battles, a hundred victory.

I am not saying we treat our grey as an enemy to do battle with.

But if we understand them, it may make it that much easier to live with them and to train with them.

Whether you want to train with them as friends, or to train them as you the "Alpha', understanding their mind must help.

And perhaps those that thought they must dominate them and be the Alpha might even change their mind instead.

And perhaps those that have been bitten and otherwise terrorised by their grey might be bitten a lot less and enjoy their parrot a lot more, and find training with them a lot easier. And in bonding with them.

If you understand the mentality of your parrot, that might go a long way to becoming friends together. And save you lot of pain and heartaches in the process.


Notwithstanding that was written in early 2005, I cannot add further to that.

I think this is one of the most important of the many entries I have written over the last ten years.

I find what I wrote to be applicable to my currently living with Riamfada, and to Yingshiong even if YS was not a grey.


My 2 cents and for all it is worth.

An extract from Tinkerbell Legacy

Tinkerbell Legacy - Living with a flying parrot - Rant 03 (a flighted parrot mentality)

http://shanlung.livejournal.com/2187.html

Without which what you see in photos below are not possible.









Warmest regards


Shanlung
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[captwest]

I understand where you're coming from, I've had a pet amazon for forty years now , and she has taught me much.

[shanlung]

Captwest,

It is sad that far too many people think they can train and teach their birdie when the truth is the other way round.

What I write in above is tip of the iceberg.

That iceberg is http://shanlung.livejournal.com/2187.html

The stuff you will find in above URL might delight you even more.


Warmest regards


Shanlung
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http://www.geocities.com/shanlung9

[captwest]

I can see that we have much in common with our thoughts on our pet parrots, maybe companion is a better choice of words, Anyway i've never really trained my 40yr YN to do anything, however she goes every where and does every thing with me. She has never been flighted but in all fairness it allows her to do more outside the house and spend more time with me ,which is her favorite thing to do, she will go without food to be doing something with me.Any how i'm sure that there is much we can disagree about but more that we can agree on, and yes i know very well your feeling of" jousting with windmills" I think too many owners are obsessed with having their birds meet their needs than meeting the needs of their birds. As far as the biting issue goes i can't recall being bitten in the last 10-15 years(except when intervening between 2 fighting amazons, which happens because i have several amazons who don't always want to share my attentions) Yes my pet (Jake) will bite too hard when we are playing but this is because she is excited and not out meanness, most of the time i simply let her know that that's too much and she's fine. Anyway i've rambled on enough, Welcome to this forum and hope too read more about you and your Greys.Richard

[shanlung]

Captwest,

I think I go smell roses than to continue tilting at windmills in here at least.
Not with folks going about on deep grinding hard hitting training sessions.

To be epitome of training?
Or to show how gungho they can be at forcing creatures to their will?

My own training probably not more than 10 to 15 minutes in total each day.

And about as long as TV commercials or 2 minutes long should I not be getting a cold drink for myself.
And even so at that, those sessions consist more of head rubs than idiotic train train train frothing at the mouth.

To each their own and to each whatever they deserve.

Goodbye

[birdnut]

Shanlung, don't go..... You have much to contribute.

Good to see you here, my friend.

[shanlung]

Still tilting at windmills.

With all the problems I am reading on chomping and difficulties, I thought I bump this up a bit.
Might help that rare guy/gal who chose to read this.

[GlassOnion]

Very informative, thank you.

[shanlung]

It is fascinating. Since the last bump on Sep 2011, I see a flood
of biting and chomping birdies coming on stream in this thread.

Folks , to each their own. For all I know, some may like to be biten
and chomped on so that they can moan and be praised for that.

Be told to keep that stiff upper lip, show no sign, as if biting is nothing.

When a hook bill is likely to be an empaths, who can see your heart blazing with pain and agony, and with jaws chomped on and therefore not looking at your face, go on and do that.

The birdie think it is a game at best, or you are nothing but a bloody hypocrite at worse.
And of course, continue to chomp and grind chomp and grind.

Drama queens will not help either. Hookbills are empaths.

A horse can be drawn to the water. If horses refused to drink, it is their choice.

Another tilt at windmills

[shanlung]

Another bout at tilting at windmills.
Since that last tilt was 3 years ago.

Maybe it might do some good to those that got tired of being chomped on by birdies.
Or give some laughs to those that enjoyed and welcome the chomping and wanted that to continue on them.