New baby Ringneck advice - LAST PAGE UPDATE

[nikii]

hi dan4,
how s stuey? i remember u said u moving home,so how is it?
there is no news from u,hope everything going well,good luck:D
actually i will move house also in 2 months,so would like to hear some good advice from u,
thxxx

[dan4]

Useless, I've given up now I just put food in and leave him in spare bedroom

Non stop screaming wouldn't stop and still doesnt even when ignored

won't target just bites

can't get within 12inches of him without him flying

He made himself bald trying to get out of cage everyday

The only slight improvement is if I starve him all day but its still hopeless. Niki it seems this place only has people like us who are needing help rather than professionals...

[Michael]

You won't find any professionals on this site. People here are sharing what they do because they love parrots and want to give and receive advice from other real owners. You're not paying and they are not being paid for this exchange. Further, the forum platform itself is free. No one can help you until you are ready to begin helping yourself.

If you want professional advice instead, you can pay a self proclaimed parrot behavioralist to give you the same advice for a lot of money. Feel free.

[donald1954]

@dan4 - Sorry to hear about your bird. I must say, I feel sorry for him. Isnt it rather a matter of being unpatient? It is easier to learn a unwanted behavior, than to train it to stop. Your bird doesnt even know, what he is doing wrong, but definately feels uncomfortable. It takes time, but putting him in a spare bedroom, just feeding will not help him. Michael ist absolutely correct, any professional will tell you the same. poor little soul!

Don

[nikii]

hi dan4, sorry to hear that.
i was wondering what happen to u n stuey that u never post anymore.

mmmm what can i say.be patient little more.sometimes i also feel like wanna give up,but finally i dont.please just dont give up.my jojo also always biting.i always have bloody hand everyday.no touch,no step up,all he do is throwing toys n screaming,which i think i own him more longer than u own stuey.
before he always fly away n shake really badly, even poop as fast i come near him.but now he is better(actually he trying to come to me now),all i do i push my self to be near him.everytime i feel he is not okay,i step back n pretend doing something else in his room n tried again.give him a lot things that he likes,n DONT see directly into his eyes.i guees it makes them see us as scary predator.repeat this(it takes 2 weeks for me till he dsnt run away anymore),i hope it works also for u.

n dan4,michael is absolutely right.i went to a lot of vet,professional rescue guide,top breeders in this city n ask their advice .they dont help at all.all they can do is take money from ur pocket.trust me for this one.they just can say clip his wings-which we know it just make everything get more worse.

i put jojo in spare bedroom also,i dont see any behavior change or bad things happen.but u must go to his room more often,push ur self to be near him.i ask many people that they own ringneck n alexandrine,they all said its takes long time to win their trust.n they can be fastly wild if u dont handle them everyday.sorry,they are quite stubborn bird so u have to be more stubborn.i dont know but it seems true,jojo reallyyyyy stubborn.but its worth dan4,they r really good companion once they r tame.i saw my friend's ringneck preen her hair n give her kiss for 3 hours nonstop!!

sorry i talk too much,just dont want u to give up.im not an expert at all,but i will try to help as much as i can.

[donald1954]

Hi,

the bird doesnt understand. He is not happy and you are not happy either. He is not used to you, he is frightened. I would not put him from one room to the next, that makes the situation worse, another new surrounding. Leave him where he is for now, and if I was you, I would put a pair of ear plugs in my ear, and just sit qualmly in this room, read the paper or whatever, when he ist getting relaxed speak to him in a very qualm voice. And of couse, dont take his food away. You will have to take it very slow,once the bird is relaxed, move forward a little, and do the same. It is like a baby, crying, surely you dont act to a little child in this way. Just get relaxed yourself, make Baby Steps, and it will come. Being unpatient is here contra-productive. I am sure you can tame this little bird, but if you think it is to much for you, than I would think, it might be better to find a new owner, that has the time, passion and love for the bird. Of course we will help you, but first you must do the basics. Is he alone all day, or is somebody in your home? If not, you said he likes the TV, maybe he is very lonely. Test it at the weekend, maybe he gets used to the voices and he calms down. You can only try. I know people here, they leave the radio on when the got to work. Try and see what happens.

rgds Don + Karin

Ps. It took about 4 months to stop Monti screaming, when we first got him. He is a happy bird now, a bit slower than the rest of them, but screaming is one thing you can stop in a couple of days. It is a behavior, in his case it could be fear, or he is missing his old mates. Never Know. So try to be his new mate, you will be surprised what a change is possible.

[dan4]

Ignoring the screaming for 3months has given sod all improvement, infact its worse and so is the attempt to escape everyday

I can stand within inches of him, I have been able to since the first few weeks but there is no tolerance of hands unless he thinks my finger is food which is 99% of time. I sometimes think a budgie would be braver

[donald1954]

I tell you something, I was in tears at one time. My two paredt-reared birds, when we first got them were paniking, fell, one of them was laying on the floor like dead. One of them screamed, it took quite a while for me to understand, and I received wrong advice at the time as well. Dont get frustrated, just try and dont give up.

Is there anything that bird likes, foodwise? Put that little bowl in his cage, walk past and drop a reward in there, as often as possible, when he takes it, or at the start even looks at it, " Good". Dont look at him, make slow movements. Keep words to a minimum. Try, it worked fine with my paniking birds. You MUST take it very slow, he will be fine, but you must do it correct. Than tell me what the outcome is. When the bird does it, dont go forward to fast. Very slowly, when he does get the reward from the bowl, tell me, and than I tell you what to do next and when!

Rgds Don + Karin

[nikii]

hi dan4,
i agree with donald,try to put tv on.n for screaming,i have that problem also,sometimes my neighbour mad n straightly said to me that my bird is really annoying.but what can we do,they r bird.all we can do is slowly train them to not scream all day long n of course it needs patient n time.

mmm do u know what kind of scream is it??i can hear the different of jojo's scream like if he wants attention,he's mad or he's lonely.it sound quite different.u need to find out what it is n solve it.but my guess is he is lonely n shock of changing new home.

my bird not tolerated n will 200% bite my hand as well,i cant touch him also.now i tried to be more stubborn than him n slowly he is ok to see my hand around,but not touch.

oh ya dan4,i ever feel really mad n dissapointed-like i want to give him to someone.i cant hide my face expression n i dont know how,the bird understand.he scared to see me around him.maybe u have to be more relaxed n dont show any sad,mad,or any negative aura around him.im sure u can tame him,i also had almost same problem with u,so we can help each other.n like donald said, there are a lot of parrot owner in this forum that can help us

[donald1954]

Look, like today, Monti has a period of screaming, too. What I do is, I talk to him when he is quiet, not a tone when screaming. I think your case is a different one, because, your bird at this time,
doesnt like your voice. That will change. It will change from the moment, that the birds trusts you.
So my advice in this is real baby steps. Even when handreared, something happend what scared him, maybe the change of house/rooms whatever. You will have to try to receive his trust again, built up a bonus, the more good things you do to him, than he will forgive a mistake. It is starting slowly, I know, God knows how desperate I was one day. The matter how much he screams, keep your voice in a quiet way, at the first beginning, sit next to him and do what you are doing, and use the bowl method too. Try, often and without getting frustrated. It might take a while, but I see no other solution at this time. always keep in mind, there a people like you all over the world, who had or have the same problem. you can give in and put the bird in a spare room or you can work an have success in a while. Harry Potter with his magic stick will not come to you and solve the problem.
Not a chance! Good luck!

rgds Don + Karin