helppp why my alexandrine sooo panic???

[Polarn]

I did read someone here used the word gentle to tell the parrot that he is biting to hard, and it seemed to work for him. in my opinion if that works and ouch should work just as fine, seeing the parrot doesnt know the difference between gentle and ouch unless it is thought. however yelling ouch might not be a good idea. but saying ouch or whatever might be usable as a command to let go.

So far i havn't had any troubles with biting from Polarn, so havn't really spent to much effort into how to train it not to bite. I know there is a "webinar" hosted by Chet & Dave Womach on howto get your bird stop biting. I received an invite thrue mail to it and registred in time to get a spot for it. got a spot thuesday next week. dont know if it is too late to register for it now or if it is still possible. this particular "webinar" is free to attend.

[Kath]

Everytime Ako bites I just tap him with my finger (usualy in his forehead) and I say "NO!" or do a "xsssst!!!" sound. It works - he doesn't bite, only very gentle it tickles
Sometimes he seems to forget how hard he can bite but as soon as I say NO he just turns and walks away for few seconds
Just for your notice: I don't hurt him - my tapping him isn't hard, just to let him know that I'm the one in charge.

[nikii]

hi guys,thanks alot for the help!!
my jojo is 8 months old now,i bought him from bird shop.he wasnt tamed at all.he scared of humans,specially visitor that comes to my home.

I dont know why he always screaming,i try everything.i put a lot of toys,give him attention,i sit in his room.but after like 10 minutes i go out he will start to scream again.n its really loud.im really lucky that all my neighbour never complain about him. i think he just bored,i will let him out this week(honestly im very nervous) i hope he will come back again to his cage.

oh ya,i really want to share something with all of u guys.something really make me sad.
yesterday i went to the bird shop to buy perch n parrot gym for my jojo.and the owner come to me n he said: ahh i remember u,u bought alexandrine from me last month.why u buy this much of stuff for him?he JUST an alexandrine.he is not a good talker like african gray or macaw.he dsnt need this much stuff.alexandrine is a stupid parrot.just give him sunflower seed n he will be happy.its enough.he dsnt need that much of attention.u will regret to spend your entire life with this stupid parrot.why u just dont sell him to me again n buy my grey?


From what he said to me,i understand why jojo really scared of human.they dont take care of him very well when he is in bird store.i dont wanna give up.even he still not tame yet i dont wanna sell him to that cruel bird shop owner.im really happy that everybody in this forum help me alot to solve my problem with jojo.sorry for the long story


thanks again for all the great advice!!

[liz]

Did you tell the man in the pet shop that he is stupid and should never be around animals?

When Myrtle gets into something and won't listen to "no" I use her original fear of hands by opening mine with my fingers spread wide and palm in her direction. She knows what I mean and does not fault me for how I do it. It is an across the room signal and I do not have to be near her.

I never hit my kids but they knew the rime "see my finger - see my thumb - see my fist you better run". If they miss behaved in public rather than make a sean I would give them the hand signals. They understood.

[nikii]

hi everyone!!
this morning i just let jojo out(first time)
he was very scared ar first,he refuse to come out.but finally he try to climb the cage door n he fly.
he explore all the things in his room n he also poop on the carpet.(its ok for me)

he dsnt come near me,im sure he still not sure about me.but....he dsnt come back to his cage.i try to put his favorite food in his cage,n he dsnt come back.
now he is sleeping on the top of bookshelf.what the best i can do to make him come back?
any sugesstion?i dont want to be trauma from letting my parrot out.


thanksss

[macbrush]

I also tried letting my grey out a few times, but he didn't come out. I keep the cage open for hours on Sunday, the best he did was step one foot on the door, stick his head out to look around, and then retreated back to his perch. I tried watching, not watching, leaving the room... to no avail. In fact, when I went back to the room, he was already resting with one foot on his perch. But then... like you, I have no sure way to get him back to the cage, so in a way, I am glad he didn't come out actually.

I would like to know how you are going put your bird back too! Good luck.

[Kath]

Hello ^_^
Hey, I have a VERY easy method if Ako doesn't want to come back to his cage. Just wait till dark - parrots are completly blind when it's dark - and just grab him from behind through towel. He won't know it's you. Put him in cage, close the cage door and turn the light on
The only thing you have to remember is to don't get scared and don't let go if jojo scream - it won't hurt him, he will just be confused, won't know what grabbed him. Because if you let go he will fly around the room and probably hit the wall or something. But if you will let go, you just light the room immediately and wait till he calms down.
No trauma will be done - I can tell - Ako is fine and in the beginning I was using this method quite often
BTW, they say same thing about lovebirds in Poland - that they're stupid and loud and stuff. I can see Ako is a smart parrot with a lot of temper, around the age of jojo
The guy is just stupid, doesn't know a thing about animals. Don't pay attention to what he says - you know better - you own him

All the best,
Kath

PS, Lovebirds can't talk as well but I don't mind. They just do similar sound to human talking. But so what?! Dogs don't talk as well and nobody seems to have a problem with that.

[nikii]

hi guys,thanks for the reply.
he come to the top of curtain now.i dont know how i can grab him with towel later on,its too high for me.seems he dsnt wanna come to his cage for forever.

so what i have to do??any idea?its starting to dark here n i still not find a way to make him come back..

thxxxx

[Polarn]

I kind of have the same trouble with Polarn not returning to the cage for a long time and I do keep his food and water inside the cage becouse I do want him to go there every now and then. Sometimes he goes there to eat or drink. But like yesterday he didn't go back to the cage at all so it ended with me grabbing him over his back to put him in the cage. He emediatly ate some and drank so after about 20 minutes I opened the door again. He stayed in the cage for a while playing with a toy then he flew out and landed on top of the curtain. Satisfied he had actually eaten some I went to bed. This morning when I woke up he was sitting in his cage on the perch right next to me (got the cage next to the bed). This was the first time he has made his way to the cage to sleep. Have had to catch him several times to get him back just for the food and water. Hopefully he has understood now that he may fly back and forth as he likes. But he has only been here 12 days now so might have to catch him some more times. Good thing is that he no longer tries to bite me when I grab him. He still won't step up but he shakes hand when I tell him to greet. For a great ofc, just hope I can evolve this one finger action into stepping up by presenting 2 fingers eventually.

[nikii]

hi everybody..
finally..i grab him with towel.i hope he is ok because he can run away from me 2 times.i did like what kath says that,i wait till its dark n i catch him.n i put him in his cage.

i was really scary ,because i have to catch him from ceilling light,thats why he can run away.is he gonna be stress now?n what i have to do next?open the cage again for the next day??

i got really worry about my ceiling light.he likes to fly to there n i saw him chewing the wire.
he is so lucky that i realize it n i switch off all the electricity.

any idea???thankssss