helppp why my alexandrine sooo panic???

[liz]

I kind of have the same trouble with Polarn not returning to the cage for a long time and I do keep his food and water inside the cage becouse I do want him to go there every now and then. Sometimes he goes there to eat or drink. But like yesterday he didn't go back to the cage at all so it ended with me grabbing him over his back to put him in the cage. He emediatly ate some and drank so after about 20 minutes I opened the door again. He stayed in the cage for a while playing with a toy then he flew out and landed on top of the curtain. Satisfied he had actually eaten some I went to bed. This morning when I woke up he was sitting in his cage on the perch right next to me (got the cage next to the bed). This was the first time he has made his way to the cage to sleep. Have had to catch him several times to get him back just for the food and water. Hopefully he has understood now that he may fly back and forth as he likes. But he has only been here 12 days now so might have to catch him some more times. Good thing is that he no longer tries to bite me when I grab him. He still won't step up but he shakes hand when I tell him to greet. For a great ofc, just hope I can evolve this one finger action into stepping up by presenting 2 fingers eventually.

You are doing great. I don't agree with the towel method but putting him back to eat and leaving the door open has taught him that his cage is home and not just a jail.

These birds have been imprisioned for so long that when they get out they don't want to go back. By leaving the door open you have taught him that it is not a jail but his home.

Good work. He will soon be coming to greet you in the morning when you awake like Myrtle does.


The first step up is better with two hands. It gives them more support and they know where both of your hands are.

[nikii]

hi thxx for the idea!!yeah i will open his cage again for next 2 days(not tomorrow,im still trauma)
liz,its really good to let the cage door always open so jojo will feel its his home
now jojo sleeps like a baby!!

i just worry about his room condition.i have a big hanging ceiling lamp(from today im sure its his favorite),big bookshelf(he really like to destroy my books),n computer with alot of wire.is it dangerous?should i move him to another room?or there is any better way without moving him?

i will post his room pic,n i really need for the advice
im already sure now i dont want to clip his wing,i think its not that difficult to have a flight parrot.(i only hate the time i must to catch him)
wow cant wait one day he will greet me in the morning!!

thanks everybody for all the big help!!!

[liz]

Key in the thread "What has your bird destroyed".

[Polarn]

Oh, I don't use a towel when I grab him I just do it with my hands if he feels like biting me, so be it. But only drawn blood once. And after that it has bin more of a holding on beaking, and his grip has become softer and softer. Weird thing tho is that he don't try walk away when I come to grab him. And he knows when I am about too. Sometimes he is up on the cage or on the curtains, and then I have to grab him from the front instead. And now he seems to basicly accept this as well as him today walking up to my hand and grabbed my finger to shake it hello. But so far he has never walked up on me/ landed on me. But I got a feeling it isn't too far off

[liz]

It sounds good.

I didn't push Myrtle. I figured she had enough fears and neglect before I got her that she could just be what she wanted to be and at her own speed.

All I needed from her was to be able to tell me how she feels weather it was in words or sounds.

She has become my joy in this life. When I stumble out of bed for coffee and everything else in the house wants attention she flies to me tells me hello (she won't say good morning) then gives me kisses. She loves me and not just because I feed her.

You can't get better than that. Your baby is starting to do the same.

[Kath]

Toweling or not is personal decision i guess. For me the good thing about this is that when it's dark and you use towel the bird doesn't know it's you who grabbed it. As long as you will be quiet of course ;P Besides it won't hurt your bird and for unexperienced people the plus is that if the bird would like to bite, the owner won't get scared and will not let the parrot out. Just my opinion I guess
The most important thing right now is for jojo to get used to nikki.
While he's out you can stay in his room and just do something (read a book or whatever), just sometimes look what jojo is doing. He will get used to your presence and will come to you on his own eventually. At least it's how it was with Ako
Just be patient and don't push to hard on jojo. Patience is the key with every animal I guess (I used to own a rabbit, mouse, rat, gerbil and a canary - not at the same time of course ;p - so I have a bit of experience with animals)

As always, good luck
Kath and Ako

[nikii]

hi everybody...finally i move jojo to other room. (i think its more safer for him)
but i want to ask something:
1) for polarn: i feel jojo bit scared of me after that catching night.i feel he act differently.is it ok if i let him free from cage for 24 hours??seems he hates to come back to his cage now(he takes food from me always when he is out).n what happen if i let him to be out of cage even for sleeping time?he likes to go to highest place possible n is it ok?because many people say it will make him to think he is the head of the flock.what u think?

2) for kath: kath, after u catch ako does he scared of u the other day?because jojo does.n what u do to make him come back to normal?do u free ako to explore all ur house?how about kitchen?
also is it any other way to make him come back without catching?im really had trauma from it
oh ya,how u can touch ako for the first time?

3)for liz:liz do u free myrtle for all the day even u out of home?my husband said i should clip jojo wings but not all,only to make him cant fly too high (because of my electricity wire on the ceilling) is it good idea? honestly i dont really agree with him but i dont know what i have to do if he always refuse to come back to cage when its bed time.


oh ya,if i free him 24 hours,what i have to do when i need to vaccum his room,cleaning window,etc?i dont want him to scared of me(usually i put cover to his cage,but now he is out n i dont wanna force him to come to cage).jojo is really terible panic parrot.

sorry i ask too much...!!!i ask many people about parrot but everyone here always give me best answer!i trust all of u more than people in my country!!
thankssssssssssss everybody!!!

[Polarn]

To start off, I have left my buddy at home right now with the rest oft the family, and I am at my home town quite drunk ATM so excuse for any spelling and grammaristake. I would let Polarn fly free out of the cage for between 18-24 hours before I caught him to force him back to the cage to eat n drink, however I am more concerned about him than my wallpapers so I shower him (and he drinks) outside the cage as well, with a flower thingie. But after that time I grab him and Put him back into the cage I front of his bowls to "force" him to eat and drink. Sometimes I leave the cage open sometimes closed, depending on his mode. Then if closed, I open it again.

I might come back tomorrow sober and correct this....

[Kath]

Ako actually looked more pissed off than scared after catching him. And about exploring, he flies wherever I go, doen't move far away from me, is not interested in kitchen if I'm not there.
Maybe jojo isn't tame enough, maybe he needs more time than Ako did.
But we still working on touching him. Sometimes he let me put my finger on his head but only for a short while.
Don't worry, jojo will get used to you sooner or later

[liz]

Mine are not caged. They keep food and stuff in their cage. I have all my birds in the sunroom and they mostly stay their. Rambo and Myrtle do come into the living room to play. Myrtle meets me at the coffee pot in the morning and spends about 20 minutes talking to me and playing but then goes back to her daily routine.

I have the doors to the sunroom closed right now because their are so many people here today. Most of the time the sunroom doors are open.

Mine are very well adjusted and social. Myrtles one finger tickle has turned into much more. We now tickle head and under wings as well as kissing. When she grabs my finger I kiss her leg then ask if she wants me to kiss the other leg. She will shift her weight and give me the other leg to kiss.

I believe that know thing are not trapped in a cage has made them more relaxed. Rambo sometimes gets caged for 15 minutes when he gets into trouble.