I need some advies

[Nir]

It's not that I dont think cag is suitable but that you might not have as much time to spend with him during college/work. Cags starts plucking and might start a lot of bad behaviors because of it. But if you think you will have time then it's fine. What qualities do you like in a cag? Perhaps we can point out some other options that you didn't think about.

[bosad44]

It's not that I dont think cag is suitable but that you might not have as much time to spend with him during college/work. Cags starts plucking and might start a lot of bad behaviors because of it. But if you think you will have time then it's fine. What qualities do you like in a cag? Perhaps we can point out some other options that you didn't think about.

they are quitter compared to the other bigger birds which is good for me and I like how intelligent they can be even though that could be different from bird to another. and I know they require a lot of time and attention and I spend most of my time in home I rarely go out so I got that solved. and I can afford to bring new toys for it every now and then so it wont get bored when I'm not around. and for me the size is just perfect for me. and the look of the bird is just a bonus for me. and I think cags are a nice choice for a life companion for me. there's much more things but that's what's on top of my head right now

[cml]

I can afford to bring new toys for it every now and then

A cag will probably go through at least 2-4 toys a week. I build my own toys for the most part, but I'd say my two birds go through about 50-60$ worth of toys a month. If I had bought all toys, that sum would have to be more than doubled. Just so you know .

In addition to that, in two years Ive spent about 1200$ on cages, about 600$ on vet trips and 800-1000ish on food (about 400-500$/year).

Then there's all the small stuff in addition to the "regular" expenses, as well as stuff I buy to parrot proof or make my home a better place for them. Probably spent too much money there as well ^^.

Just wanted to give you some perspective on the costs, because I saw there was a discussion about it on the first page of this thread.

[bosad44]

I can afford to bring new toys for it every now and then

A cag will probably go through at least 2-4 toys a week. I build my own toys for the most part, but I'd say my two birds go through about 50-60$ worth of toys a month. If I had bought all toys, that sum would have to be more than doubled. Just so you know .

In addition to that, in two years Ive spent about 1200$ on cages, about 600$ on vet trips and 800-1000ish on food (about 400-500$/year).

Then there's all the small stuff in addition to the "regular" expenses, as well as stuff I buy to parrot proof or make my home a better place for them. Probably spent too much money there as well ^^.

Just wanted to give you some perspective on the costs, because I saw there was a discussion about it on the first page of this thread.

nice. and yea I'm pretty much aware of all that thanks a lot. I used to make toys for my cockatiel too and he liked them so that wont be a big of a problem as I can make and buy it wont be a problem everything you mentioned guys is manageable in my case. thanks a lot for the advises

[Nir]

sounds like your on top of things. i dont think you need our advice lol. just get the bird and post pictures.

[Pajarita]

LOL - You don't want to be convinced, you want us to say that it will be OK but it won't because there is nobody on Earth that has actually stuck to a plan he/she made when he/she was just 17. You will have to go to classes, you will have to study for hours every day, you will have to prepare for finals for days and nights, you will make friends and possibly a boyfriend who will all take up part of your time and, in another two years, you will be spending maybe one hour a day with your parrot. Why? Because we all have EXCELLENT intentions and a great plan when we first decide to get a parrot but 99.99% of very young people end up neglecting their bird (I have four of them that were given up within two years by young people like you). Life happens and your life hasn't even started yet so there is no way on this green earth that your plan will actually come to pass for the next 50 years but I am sure you see yourself as the exception to the rule (we all did at your age). Are your parents OK with spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars every year on the bird? You do realize you will have to cook for it, shop organic, make toys, clean the cage, take it to the Avian vet (are there even any avian vets in your country?) and spend, at least, 3 hours a day of one-on-one for the next 50 years? Do you realize that grown-ups who make their own money and live in their own house are not able to do it?

[janetafloat]

I'm sorry, we're not trying to give you a hard time but what you're saying just isn't realistic, for many of the reasons Pajarita just outlined. Just to take one example, you say you made toys for your cockatiel but I've had a cockatiel and now have a senegal (which is a very small bird compared to a CAG) and there is no comparison to the amount of toys that the senegal goes through, I'm shocked by how much I spend on toy stuff, and I make the toys too, I don't buy all ready made. The senegal is just so much more destructive than a cockatiel - you just have to look at the difference in the beak. And the toys that a senegal will destroy in days, a CAG will destroy in minutes, and they do need a constant and changing selection of things to keep their attention and give them something to do.

The biggest need of a sensitive, social creature like a CAG though is time, every day, day in day out, and Pajarita is right - you have no idea what you're going to be doing or what your life is going to look like in a year, or two years, or five years from now. It is an aspect of your youth that you can't imagine how much things can and will change. And Pajarita's right too, that you're not here to get advice, you're not hearing us at all! Another aspect of youth...

[bosad44]

LOL - You don't want to be convinced, you want us to say that it will be OK but it won't because there is nobody on Earth that has actually stuck to a plan he/she made when he/she was just 17. You will have to go to classes, you will have to study for hours every day, you will have to prepare for finals for days and nights, you will make friends and possibly a boyfriend who will all take up part of your time and, in another two years, you will be spending maybe one hour a day with your parrot. Why? Because we all have EXCELLENT intentions and a great plan when we first decide to get a parrot but 99.99% of very young people end up neglecting their bird (I have four of them that were given up within two years by young people like you). Life happens and your life hasn't even started yet so there is no way on this green earth that your plan will actually come to pass for the next 50 years but I am sure you see yourself as the exception to the rule (we all did at your age). Are your parents OK with spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars every year on the bird? You do realize you will have to cook for it, shop organic, make toys, clean the cage, take it to the Avian vet (are there even any avian vets in your country?) and spend, at least, 3 hours a day of one-on-one for the next 50 years? Do you realize that grown-ups who make their own money and live in their own house are not able to do it?

as I've said I considered everything you have stated and yes I know the decision I'm making. but you can't state things when you don't even know how my life is like or how do I live. I appreciate that you're here for help and you may be right about me being young and things may change as I get older but in fact things changes for everyone either you're young or old as long as we are living life changes. I had a previous experience with a cockatiel and I know what is it like to take care of a bird expect that greys will require more care and attention and time. I know the prices here I know how money do I have and I know the vet I'm going to see so before judging please read what I've said before and that I considered everything. if you have anything else to say tell me please and thanks.. oh and yea I'm a boy :p

[Michael]

Just to take one example, you say you made toys for your cockatiel but I've had a cockatiel and now have a senegal (which is a very small bird compared to a CAG) and there is no comparison to the amount of toys that the senegal goes through, I'm shocked by how much I spend on toy stuff, and I make the toys too, I don't buy all ready made. The senegal is just so much more destructive than a cockatiel - you just have to look at the difference in the beak.

Hihi, a Senegal is hardly destructive at all

[bosad44]

I'm sorry, we're not trying to give you a hard time but what you're saying just isn't realistic, for many of the reasons Pajarita just outlined. Just to take one example, you say you made toys for your cockatiel but I've had a cockatiel and now have a senegal (which is a very small bird compared to a CAG) and there is no comparison to the amount of toys that the senegal goes through, I'm shocked by how much I spend on toy stuff, and I make the toys too, I don't buy all ready made. The senegal is just so much more destructive than a cockatiel - you just have to look at the difference in the beak. And the toys that a senegal will destroy in days, a CAG will destroy in minutes, and they do need a constant and changing selection of things to keep their attention and give them something to do.

The biggest need of a sensitive, social creature like a CAG though is time, every day, day in day out, and Pajarita is right - you have no idea what you're going to be doing or what your life is going to look like in a year, or two years, or five years from now. It is an aspect of your youth that you can't imagine how much things can and will change. And Pajarita's right too, that you're not here to get advice, you're not hearing us at all! Another aspect of youth...

I'm hearing you and I understand what you're trying to say to me. and I didn't say that any of you was wrong on what you're trying to say I'm just answering with what you said to me. what I think it's not always the age it about how responsible you're gonna be and if you're willing and have what it takes to to care of it. if you think that I don't have what it takes to take care of the bird the I would understand but don't judge about my life and how do I live when you clearly don't know how's my life is like or how my parents are or what's my country is like. and thanks I appreciate ur effort