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red tail feathers are missing

Postby routedriver » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:19 pm

My Grey lost all its red tail feathers, she's 17 and ive never had this problem before. All you can see is her behind :gray:
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Re: red tail feathers are missing

Postby Wolf » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:41 pm

Do you have any of the feathers that came out? Are there any other places where she is missing feathers? Look at them and see if they are smooth or if they look chewed on, the only thing that I know of that causes this is either dietary or barbering. Tell us what you feed her and when you feed her. How much out of cage time does she have each day? When does she get up and go to bed? How much one on one time does she have with you daily? Does she get unfiltered sunshine at all? Is she clipped or flighted?
Any or all of these things may be contributing to the loss of her tail feathers.
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Re: red tail feathers are missing

Postby routedriver » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:48 pm

First she is out of her cage for about 8 hours a day, shes in the same room as we watch TV, She eats vegtables and mix seeds. cant find any feathers doesnt pick on her feathers She wakes up at 4 am when i go to work and im home at 12, no out sunshine. Sleeps off and on during the day. She seems to be fine and talking up a storm, just lost her red feathers. Im hoping they will grow back in
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Re: red tail feathers are missing

Postby Wolf » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:31 am

Ok, lets try this again. If I were there with you and your bird so that I could watch what happens for a couple of days, I would have a much better chance at explaining to you what is going on with your Grey. Unfortunately this is not the case and so I must depend on you to be my eyes and ears into the world of your Grey lady. I do have a Grey of my own and I do know hoe she reacts to things, but that is not the same as we live differently. I do not want to pry into your life, but if we are going to benefit you in finding out what is happening the we need some details in the areas that I asked about.
Greys are one of the most difficult species of parrots to keep happy and healthy and just as our bodies change as we age and this causes changes in our dietary requirements, this also occurs in our birds. We all feed an unnatural diet to our birds, things that they don't have available in their natural habitat so as time passes this un natural diet begins to catch up and toxins that have been building for years reach a point where we begin to notice the effects on our birds.
About the feathers--- are you saying that you never found them or that you got rid of them?

Basically your bird needs to be exposed to the twilight that occurs a both dawn and dusk without the interference of any artificial lighting as this is what sets their internal clock and keeps their endocrine system healthy. They need between 8 to 12 hours of sleep depending on what time of the year it is. They need to have about 4 or 5 hours of out of cage time at a minimum each day to exercise and explore or to just hang out with you with at least one hour of this time being one on one with you and this means physical contact. They need a low fat and low protein diet. Seeds are a natural part of their diet but due to the protein and fat content should only be fed for their dinner and then removed after they go to sleep each night. Since your bird is a CAG , she probably needs a vitamin supplement to help maintain the proper levels of calcium, magnesium, D-3, and A. The preferred way to increase the Vitamin a is through a good supply of foods that are rich in beta carotene as this allows them to make this vitamin in their body and limits the possibility of too much of this vitamin.
Just so that you understand the people on this forum a little better---- We are here for the birds and that is our whole reason. We care about the health and welfare of your bird as if it was our very own bird. Please don't misunderstand me when I say that you are secondary to me as my concern is for your bird, you are in control of your life and can make whatever changes in it that you feel you need to ,but your bird must depend on you for these things and this is a large part of why I say to me you are secondary. You are important, but for me the bird is more important and is my sole motivation for being here. Please post pictures of your Grey lady when you can as I would really love to see her.
Well that is all I have at the moment. If you need more, I will try, but the more detailed you are the better answers you will get.
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Re: red tail feathers are missing

Postby Pajarita » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:00 am

Are there 'stubs' in her tail? Meaning, do you see broken shafts or nothing at all but skin? Because broken shafts means either barbering (she cuts the ends of the feather herself), inadequate housing (too small a cage where the tail is always bumping into the sides), a clipped bird (because when they try to land, they can't do the maneuver right and would end up landing on their tail) or a dietary issue (lack of betacarotene in the diet causes feathers to weaken and a fatty liver would impair replacement of these feathers). If there are no shafts, it's either plucking (she pulls the feathers by the root) from either emotional or physical issues (did you check her rump to see if her uropygial gland -lack of betacarotene would do it- and vent look OK?).

You are not very specific on her diet (free fed seeds or measured? what kind of seeds? what kind of vegetables and how often? no fruits? no leafy greens?) so it's hard to tell but, although I could be wrong, it doesn't sound healthy to me. And the schedule you have her on (getting up at 4 am and taking naps during the day) would make for a screwed up endocrine system (and there is no doubt about that) which affects them negatively not only on a physical but also on an emotional level.
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