Agapornis fischeri - mutation?

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Hello!
I want to join this couple of loverbirds but I've got a few doubts concerning mutations!
What are the mutations of this two lovebirds? Some of them got signs of hybridation? Please could someone help me? Thank you!

Female (green):




Male:

[Pajarita]

The pictures are too small to be able to see any details but they look like Fischers to me...

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Thank you for your reply Pajarita.

If you click in each image you could download it.

What kind of mutations could I get if I breed these birds? Always greens?

[Wolf]

Or you could post or link to a larger picture.

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Or you could post or link to a larger picture.

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[Wolf]

Thank you for that, the larger picture will help those with the answer to see the birds better. If I have read this correctly you want to know what color mutations you can expect by breeding the Green male to the lutino ( yellow) female. Is that correct?

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No! I want to breed with those two green birds (female - first three pictures; male - last three pictures).

The DEC (the eyes aren't red) it's a older male! I've tried before to breed with him but the eggs (three postures = 14 eggs) weren't fertilized .

[Pajarita]

Well, the babies mutations are not 100% dependent on the parents because they could be 'splits' but, if they are not, you will get green ones. But I would implore you not to breed them. Hundreds of thousands of lovies out there already....

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I would implore you not to breed them.

I don't understand it . I'm trying to do that for passion, fun, challenge... If the problem is the crossing of green with green let me tell you that I like more green Agapornis fischeris than violets or other colours .

Hundreds of thousands of lovies out there already....

Here I only can see lovebirds in pet stores, in some zoos, breeders or bird expositions! It's not a local specie or invasor!

[Pajarita]

I don't know where 'here' is but, in the States, lovies are almost throw-away birds, there are soooo many of them. As to 'passion, fun, challenge' unless you have years of experience breeding birds (getting them to lay and have babies is easy but getting healthy babies and parents after the fact is not) and have excellent forever homes for all of them, you need to consider the consequences which go from keeping the babies and ending up with defective in-bred birds to weak, unhealthy and even dead birds.

I'll tell you a story. I gave away a pair of canaries bred by me. The birds were healthy, young and strong and I told the guy that, if he wanted to breed them, he would have to wait another year and come to me for instructions. He didn't. He did not wait and did not ask for instructions because, as most people do, thought it was just a matter of putting a male and female together and giving them a nest. They produced 3 babies in the entire season (a normal clutch is 4 and you get two clutches per season easily -bad breeders even get more), one of them died (he doesn't know why) and, last December (the babies must have been about 8 months old at the time so, for a canary, that's fully grown), he brought them back for me to care for while the family moved to a new house. I never returned the birds to him. Why? Because those birds would have died in another year or two. The adult parents had lost their good plumage and had tattered and worn out feathers, the babies were so strung-out that all they did all day long was fight with other birds and they couldn't even fly because their plumage was so bad, the primaries were just sticks with nothing to form a real feather. Why did this happen? Because he did not know enough about breeding, did not wait until the female was old enough, did not condition them or fed them the right food while they were raising their babies and kept them in a small cage all crowded. I have been able to build up the parents back to a good health and they are now going through molt so they will grow a good plumage but the babies will remain high-strung and weak all their lives so they can never be bred. Like I said, producing babies is easy, producing healthy, strong, well-adjusted babies and keeping the parents strong and healthy is not.