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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby kaylayuh » Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:36 pm

Because of the bars on their foreheads, I'd guess they're younger than 6 months. It's almost impossible to exactly tell, but when they reach about a year old, their foreheads become completely yellow. You also can't really tell what sex they are now, so you may have two males or two females. You may have one of each, but their ceres will continue to change color even after their first molt.

My lutino budgie had a purple-ish pink cere until here first molt when it turned white. My Slate budgie had a bright purple cere until his first molt and now it's blue.

You should definitely find some toys for them. I'm not sure what's available in Egypt, but my budgies love bells and things to shred apart.

They're very cute!
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby coolhady13 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:12 pm

kaylayuh wrote: you may have two males or two females


that would be a big surprise :D :mrgreen:
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby kaylayuh » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:56 pm

You can't really tell the sex of a budgie until after it's first molt. Mine molted at about a year old, but their ceres started to change colors a bit earlier.

My lutino is a female and her cere is all white. Her cere was a light purple/pink color until she was about a year old which led me to think she was a male. After she finished her first molt, it became a creamy white color and has stayed that way since.

My slate budgie is a male and his cere is in the process of turning a light blue color. He began his first molt a couple of days ago, but I noticed his cere changing colors at the beginning of March. Right now, his cere is blue towards the nares and more purple towards the beak; but I notice it changing a bit more every day.

I had a pretty good idea that my slate budgie was a male because he was much larger than the lutino even though he's a couple of months younger. He also has a louder chirp and sings throughout the day which is supposed to be a sign of a male budgie. Pigpen, the lutino, is much quieter and really only makes sounds when she's screaming. She only screams when she's displeased with something, but No Name, the slate, will chirp throughout the day.

Because I'm guessing the budgies are no older than six months, I'd say it will take another six months before you know for certain what their sexes are. Normal males will have a blue or purple cere, while normal females will have a white or flaky brown cere.

If the store you got the birds from told you they were one sex or another, I'd guess they either don't know much about how to sex a budgie or they thought they were much older than they actually are. Once you notice the black bars on the budgies foreheads disappearing, you should also notice the cere starting to change and you should be able to tell definitively soon after that.

Either way, they're very cute and I'm surprised you can tell them apart. I got my budgies in two different colors because I was afraid I'd mix them up.
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby TheNzJessie » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:41 am

congrats on your birds make sure you give them some tree branches as perching thou
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby coolhady13 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:52 am

TheNzJessie wrote:congrats on your birds make sure you give them some tree branches as perching thou

Thank you :) , i'll look for one that fits in between my cage bars
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby coolhady13 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:57 am

kaylayuh wrote:You can't really tell the sex of a budgie until after it's first molt. Mine molted at about a year old, but their ceres started to change colors a bit earlier.

My lutino is a female and her cere is all white. Her cere was a light purple/pink color until she was about a year old which led me to think she was a male. After she finished her first molt, it became a creamy white color and has stayed that way since.

My slate budgie is a male and his cere is in the process of turning a light blue color. He began his first molt a couple of days ago, but I noticed his cere changing colors at the beginning of March. Right now, his cere is blue towards the nares and more purple towards the beak; but I notice it changing a bit more every day.

I had a pretty good idea that my slate budgie was a male because he was much larger than the lutino even though he's a couple of months younger. He also has a louder chirp and sings throughout the day which is supposed to be a sign of a male budgie. Pigpen, the lutino, is much quieter and really only makes sounds when she's screaming. She only screams when she's displeased with something, but No Name, the slate, will chirp throughout the day.

Because I'm guessing the budgies are no older than six months, I'd say it will take another six months before you know for certain what their sexes are. Normal males will have a blue or purple cere, while normal females will have a white or flaky brown cere.

If the store you got the birds from told you they were one sex or another, I'd guess they either don't know much about how to sex a budgie or they thought they were much older than they actually are. Once you notice the black bars on the budgies foreheads disappearing, you should also notice the cere starting to change and you should be able to tell definitively soon after that.

Either way, they're very cute and I'm surprised you can tell them apart. I got my budgies in two different colors because I was afraid I'd mix them up.

Thank you ur GCC is cute too, i can tell them apart from there ceres color. One have a blue cere and the other have a whit one , i started teaching the male to nod its head yesterday :D
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby kaylayuh » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:01 am

The cere will more than likely change. While I can't be entirely sure how old the budgies are, they are still pretty young and may not have gone through their "puberty" yet. My budgies ceres changed almost daily for the first three or four months. I was constantly changing what sex I thought they were!
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby zazanomore » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:06 am

My budgies ceres turned pretty early on.

Now that it's spring, Bonnie's cere has turned darker brown and looks crusty. In the winter it really lightened up.

I was lucky when I asked the petsmart worker what she thought the sexes were. Her guess was bang on.
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby kaylayuh » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:53 am

zazanomore wrote:My budgies ceres turned pretty early on.

Now that it's spring, Bonnie's cere has turned darker brown and looks crusty. In the winter it really lightened up.

I was lucky when I asked the petsmart worker what she thought the sexes were. Her guess was bang on.



When I asked PetCo what they thought their sexes were, they said Pigpen was a male and "his" cere would never change because "he's" lutino. "He" is actually a she and has a milky white cere now. I've noticed a bit of flakiness recently, but it's still pretty white.

PetCo also said No Name was a female and "her" cere would most likely turn brown. "Her" cere is now turning a bright blue and he is most definitely not a female. His cere is still half purple and half blue, but it changes a bit more every day.

All in all, I'd say coolhady13 probably does have a male and female, but I'd be a bit wary of trusting someone's judgment until I saw what they turned for certain. I was quite surprised to find out Pigpen was actually a female after her first molt when here cere turned a creamy white!
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Re: budgie or lovebird ?

Postby coolhady13 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:23 pm

hay ,my male budgie :budgie: learned to nod it head :thumbsup: also stick target training ,all this done in cage ,tommorow i will do them with him to make the nod head trick stick in its head ,then on friday i might teach it to wave or wing trick , i love the clicker :D , also he is now eating seeds from my finger but he gets scared from it without seeds on it , i think tameing will take some time :D
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