Considering a Conure!

[Nir]

You have some good points in your post, but if you get a parrot when you are 70, than you will probably die before the bird, leaving a hopefully bonded bird in the hands of relatives, buyers, or shelters.
just sayin.

But, you are right in saying that new comers that have not established that they might have actually done oodles and oodles of research and are asking reasonable questions and want reasonable answers, never get them, only ridicule and people telling them that they are not ready because "they don't have a job yet", "their cat is predatory", and "YOU AREN'T READY BECAUSE I SAID SO AND I KNOW MORE THAN YOU BUT NOT ANY THING ABOUT YOU SO AM GOING TO SAY NO BECAUSE THAT IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE FOR ME TO MAKE".
ok, i was exaggerating there a bit...

But really, people should be more open minded about how they address newbies questions.

Not everyone is the terrible person that is sooner to dump the bird as soon as they run into a ruff patch.

i dont think your exaggerating at all honestly. I would like to think that the people doing months of research are the good ones who will do a great job being a parrot owner. its the ones who does no research (or very little) who buys it as a impulse buy who we should be worried about and prevent.

there is a fine line between educating the new poster and just being ignorant.

even if they know you have done oodles and oodles of research and been researching for awhile, it still wont help change peoples minds.

[Nir]

Havnt we gone through this in one of your earlier threads Nir ^^?

Jokes aside, keeping in mind how we all phrase things is important, and that goes for both exsisting members of the forum, as well as new people.

I think a lot of the "critisism" is a result of the fact that some posters come across as very immature, and/or not ready to commit, and/or has a dangerous cat (I love cats though, but not in combination with parrots), etc etc.

At the same time, people who reply should try to be civil, isnt that just common sense?

Do we really have to start this discussion again, Nir?

no i dont want to be part of any discussion anymore thus why i havent posted in a month or 2 to begin with (until today). Only reason i even posted this is because i still go through the site and read stuff and today specifically i saw 3 threads that have the same type of redundant responses. This post was not about me at all. But the preconceived consensus everyone on this site has. This is why i proposed the idea of a agenda like mytoos forum. That would help new posters from posting threads like this and others.

[cmaygar]

NO. YOU ARE NOT READY. DON'T GET A PARROT. GET A DOG INSTEAD. BLARGH

^This seems to be the consensus /whenever/ you ask this question to a parrot-person.

The people on this forum seem to always assume that you are getting a parrot, jump at such an outrageous decision, and ridicule you, even when you make it clear that you are not getting a parrot.

So when you go so far as to say that you are actually "considering" buying a parrot, don't expect positive responses. If it were up to the people on this forum, no one else would have parrots but them.

When you are a student and aren't supporting yourself and living in an unstable environment, you shouldn't get any kind of pet. That 's just being a responsible adult. If he waits a few more years, then it will be much better for him and a bird, dog, cat or any other living creature that he will be responsible for for the rest of that creature's life. It's unfair to any pet to be in an unstable situation with an unemployed student. My comments are not rude or cruel, just stating the somber facts of reality. Just wait a few more years for the best interest of the pet and himself. Most of us on this forum waited to get our first parrots when we were responsible adults and could properly care for our birds. There's nothing wrong with stating the obvious. No-one should encourage irresponsible behavior.

[pennyandrocky]

it's not that anyone on here wants no one else to have a parrot it's just frustrating when someone says "i want... because i've read everything and know i can no matter what anyone says who has personal experiance". years ago i was shopping with a friend and decided to stop at a pet store to grab some things for my birds while i was out. we saw a baby cockatoo in a cage and she flipped over it. she said " i want that bird" i said " great! i would love to have another bird person to hang out with, but first come to my house while i cook dinner before you buy it." she already picked out a name and cage before we left the store. i told her what having birds was like but she was convinced it was what she wanted. the next day she came over while i was cooking and that was the end of her wanting a bird.

[Nir]

it's not that anyone on here wants no one else to have a parrot it's just frustrating when someone says "i want... because i've read everything and know i can no matter what anyone says who has personal experiance". years ago i was shopping with a friend and decided to stop at a pet store to grab some things for my birds while i was out. we saw a baby cockatoo in a cage and she flipped over it. she said " i want that bird" i said " great! i would love to have another bird person to hang out with, but first come to my house while i cook dinner before you buy it." she already picked out a name and cage before we left the store. i told her what having birds was like but she was convinced it was what she wanted. the next day she came over while i was cooking and that was the end of her wanting a bird.

i can argue that those type of people would never be the ones who actively is trying to research online and for many months before buying. No one will disagree that impulse buyers are the culprits here. But sadly all new posters are treated similarly. There is always a reason not to get a bird no matter how stable and ready someone is. And of course the ol, get a cockatiel or budgie as a recommendation for anyone who is thinking of getting a bird thus those poor birds being stuck with horrible owners.

[pennyandrocky]

i agree with you on that no one should be telling anyone to get a or if they want something else.but reading everything is not enough. it's good i did it when i was deciding to adopt mya but talking to the man who was fostering her for 2 weeks and spending time with her at his home before making the final decision was the only way i could be fully prepared for what i was taking on. the only time i would say someone needs to avoid a certain type is based on time they have, some require more attention and there living situation like someone who lives in an apartment goes out and buys a then has to rehome or get evicted because of the noise levels.
i want a but i can't get one because my home is too small to allow full flight so i have to tell myself "no" as much as i would like to have one of my own it would be cruel of me to get one just because it's what i want and not what is best for the bird.

[patfuzz]

i agree with you on that no one should be telling anyone to get a or if they want something else.but reading everything is not enough. it's good i did it when i was deciding to adopt mya but talking to the man who was fostering her for 2 weeks and spending time with her at his home before making the final decision was the only way i could be fully prepared for what i was taking on. the only time i would say someone needs to avoid a certain type is based on time they have, some require more attention and there living situation like someone who lives in an apartment goes out and buys a then has to rehome or get evicted because of the noise levels.
i want a but i can't get one because my home is too small to allow full flight so i have to tell myself "no" as much as i would like to have one of my own it would be cruel of me to get one just because it's what i want and not what is best for the bird.

My family are novices that adopted from a bird rescue a seven year old Sun Conure , Fuzz a year and 1/2 ago. He is very loud. Mostly that is because hawks and turkey vultures fly past his window. He is just trying to notify his flock, us humans that we are in danger. Fuzz has out of cage time and free flight in our living area when we are present and want to interact with him. This quality time for him and us, keeps Fuzz happy so he isn't screaming for attention. That creates happy quite time for our family. The adoption process with the bird rescue created an educated, safe, and happy living situation for my family and Fuzz. We love Fuzz so much!