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African grey or senegal?

Postby sarli » Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:04 pm

Hi my name is Anna and i olredy have one lovebird.She is a female name Miki and i have feed her sins she was 30 days old.She is a very spoiled bird and olso very agresiv.My dreem is to have a african grey and ihave reed about them alot.I have found a breeder and he will have babys grey and senegal on spring.So what u think witsh one.Its posible miki and the new baby can live i one house and maby by frinds?
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby Andromeda » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:03 pm

sarli wrote:Hi my name is Anna and i olredy have one lovebird.She is a female name Miki and i have feed her sins she was 30 days old.She is a very spoiled bird and olso very agresiv.My dreem is to have a african grey and ihave reed about them alot.I have found a breeder and he will have babys grey and senegal on spring.So what u think witsh one.Its posible miki and the new baby can live i one house and maby by frinds?


Hi, Anna, welcome to the forums. :-)

I want to answer your question as honestly as possible so please understand that I am not trying to be harsh or mean but I am just trying to give you the facts.

You say that you have a lovebird that you raised since she was 30 days old but that she is also very aggressive. No offense intended but this means that she has not been handled or tamed/trained properly because if a baby bird has been handled and tamed/trained properly it is not "very aggressive." It is calm and friendly and gentle.

Don't feel bad because raising a bird "right" is very complicated and it's very common that people make mistakes and end up with aggressive birds because they just didn't understand how to raise them. Birds are very complicated emotionally and behaviorally.

With that in mind, there is no way you should be getting a Senegal or a Grey at this point in time. If your lovebird grew up to be "very aggressive," so will your Senegal or Grey, unless---and this is key---unless you educate yourself about how to handle a bird.

Keep in mind that Senegals and Greys are much larger and much, much more difficult to handle (in so many ways) than a lovebird and if you think your lovebird is "very aggressive" you haven't seen anything yet because an aggressive Senegal can take chunks out of your finger and an aggressive Grey can bite so hard you'll need stitches.

I'm sure this is not what you wanted to hear but there is a bright side to this. You can train your lovebird to be less aggressive. It will take time but if you don't have the time and devotion to train your lovebird you certainly won't have what it takes to own a Senegal or a Grey. Work with your love bird in 5 minute sessions one to three times per day (if you can) and once your lovebird is tamer and is no longer aggressive you will know everything you need to know about raising a Senegal or a Grey and then and only then should you think about adding another bird to your family.

All you need to know about starting to tame your lovebird is here: Basics of Parrot Taming and Training - The Complete Step by Step Guide for Beginners.

Good luck and keep us posted! :-)

Again, I hope this didn't come off as harsh. I am just trying to save you a lot of headache and heartache and save the Senegal or Grey that you want from being just as aggressive as your lovebird.
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby friend2parrots » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:14 pm

Hi Anna, Andromeda's given really great advice here - I completely agree with what she's written. Work with your lovebird first... :) :swaying:

good luck :)
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby sarli » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:18 pm

Ηι thanks for unser.I menn she is aggresive to other bird to us she is verry sweet and cuddle.But i have to say i have make her very spoiled.She will by out of the cage all day or if not she will screem.If she wants somthing she will find the wey to get it.She sleeps in my cloths every evning and if i try to take her out she will bait hehe.I have to say its a verry clever small bird she understand everything.I was thinking to get a baby grey or senegal and rais it myself laik miki.Ithing i have not been to bad with this but mayby i am wrong.Sorry for long post but i try to learn as much i can befor and if i will make so big step to bring home a big parrot.I have other bird olso and i wont the best for them :swaying:
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby sarli » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:52 pm

Iforget to say that the other birds budgies and canaries are i their own room and they are free there ol the time :danicing:
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby marie83 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Ok well I agree with the other posts but since you have cleared up the situation with the agression I would like to ask you what happens when you bring home a new bird? Your current birds would be in alot of danger from a bigger beak. Tbh if your lovebird and canaries are all out together then I actually think you have been hugely lucky your lovebird hasn't hurt them.

Bringing home a bigger bird would increase that risk ALOT, a grey or senegal could kill your other birds in a split second and I would actually say that is a really really high risk.
I would suggest waiting until such a time you don't have the smaller birds to consider and in that time reading and understanding as much as possible about parrot species, behaviour and training. In the meantime you can enjoy your current birds and concentrate on giving them the best life you can :)
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby Nir » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:13 am

lol, if he waits till he doesnt have the smaller birds to consider, that should be anywhere from 10-20 years. hahha.


but anyway i agree with everything andromeda said. I will also add that If you eventually feel like your truly ready for this commitment (of anywhere from 40-80 years and tons of extra bills ) then you should make sure your small birds are away from your new bigger bird since a sennie or a grey can easily kill your smaller bird. Also really do take andromedas advice. If you cant control your lovebirds screaming then it will really annoy you if you dont raise your new bird right and they start screaming. both grey and sennies arent known for being loud but if they do become screamers, it can be very loud. So make sure you know what to do and how to raise him before getting one. I have a budgie who is also very spoiled but only because he has free roam in my room other then when he eats and when he sleeps. But he is never aggressive or screams because i made sure of that when i raised him.

also to answer your question, it really is about what you prefer and how much time you have each day to spend with them. Greys need more interaction and i think they need more 1on1 time where as sennies will need less. also sennies from what i have seen are more okay with being grabbed and cuddlier then greys but thats just a light generalization and every bird will be unique. So again think about everything and get more experience training your lovebird before committing to a new bird. The birds aren't going anywhere.
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby sarli » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:57 am

Hi guys thanks for unsers.I will never put in denger my other birds the canaries and budgies are not in the same room with Miki.They have they own room and i think they are happy there.If i find how i will show you their place.So now about the new baby.I will never buy an animal witout learnig about it thats way i sing up to the forum to speek with people who now and have more expirians than me.So u thing it will not work up?I was planing to have them in the living room who i s big and ofcorse not out of the cages in the same time.About Miki now its my folt that she is so spoiled.Last year we lose her she fly from the window(of corse now the windows are safe)and thank god she came back herself after 2 days :o I was so sad becose i love her so much so after that i live her to do everithing she wants with me.I now big mystake but i try to work with her and it go well for now.I will thing very very wel befor i make that step to put new baby to the family :hatched:
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Re: African grey or senegal?

Postby spidy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:06 am

lol. had three lovebirds. when i got my senegal. and two of them were not tame. one hand-raised. and the senegal had been parent fed. never really had the thought of the sengal attacking them. it was rather the other way. beeing afraid of the lovebirds attacking the " baby " because it was just ready to be find its " new " home. but sold two of my lovebirds so just got one now. and second thought. got that stuff in mind that the senegal is " quite " bigger then the one lovebird that i got left. wich is hand/fed!!!. but theyve been together sometimes. and it seems theyre actually good friends. wich never really happend with the other two lovebirds. gues they got theyre reason/personalities. that speaks for themselfes. but. im glad at least of the birds got to be friends. and not fight all the time! :)..
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