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Recall complications

Postby Cage Cleaner » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:21 pm

This question is for anyone who's able to recall a bird for longer than five feet. I need your suggestions. My GCC will recall perfectly under the following conditions:

1) If he wants to.
2) If I have a treat in my hand.
3) If I am close to him (five feet).
4) Only if he wants to.

Basically, he knows that he can just refuse to recall and that I can't do anything about it. He was clipped for nearly the first two years of his life (and he is only four), so I can understand a bit of hesitation perhaps sourcing from the fact that he isn't a very confident flier (he definitely looks like he has to work very hard to get over here, as he hasn't figured out the concept of gliding). However, I think that there is an unwillingness component to it as well.

My question is how do I remedy this? Should I turn my back on him every time he refuses for a few seconds? Should I begin the session at a comfortable distance and then slowly ease outward? Should I start over with a completely different queue?

The current queue I use is "Fly" and a tap on my finger with my opposite hand. He's been doing this for about a year and a half, now.

I know what I -shouldn't- do, which is step forward and let him train -me- into only recalling under his guidelines (which I've actually caught myself doing).

Let me know if you need any more details to help with this.
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Re: Recall complications

Postby Michael » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:34 pm

Cage Cleaner wrote:My GCC will recall perfectly under the following conditions:

1) If he wants to.
2) If I have a treat in my hand.
3) If I am close to him (five feet).
4) Only if he wants to.


Sounds about right :lol:
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Re: Recall complications

Postby felix11 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:35 am

He is loathe to fly because flight is strenuous. His flight muscles might not be developed fully, which makes flight very hard. You need to give him more reasons to do it.

Flight train when he is hungry. Use really great treats as rewards. Start the training session up close to the bird, with short flights and increase the distance. The more practice he has, the better his muscles will be, and the more confident he will get.

Yes, a flighted bird has a lot of power in a human/animal relationship. He will never fly if he doesn't want to, so you have to MAKE him want to with food rewards. As he gets better at flying he will enjoy it more and do it more often and for longer distances.
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Re: Recall complications

Postby felix11 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:38 am

Oh, also - try not to ever show your bird that you have a treat. That way they will come in all circumstances.
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Re: Recall complications

Postby Cage Cleaner » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:37 am

I made him do recalls this morning, before I put food in his bowl. Definitely more willing. Strangely I never even thought about the concept of using more and different treats. I'll try that tomorrow and see how that goes. They go crazy for basically whatever they think I'm eating.
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Re: Recall complications

Postby Cage Cleaner » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:58 am

I didn't put the Harrison's in their diet today, and they just had the TOP's, which they like less than the Harrisons. Guess who's recalling perfectly and at new lengths?

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Re: Recall complications

Postby felix11 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:54 am

hahaha congrats on the success!
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Re: Recall complications

Postby Cage Cleaner » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:32 pm

I did it again today. We did 30 recalls in a row, no problem. Treats intermittently. I suppose I can understand why they prefer the HArrison's, since it's the high potency, and basically uses sunflower seeds as the main ingredient. This is opposed to the TOP's, which uses rice. Too bad they're both coming off of the Harrison's soon, after the 6 month mark is up. So, the brats have it coming.

Although it makes me think that it would work very well as treats... perfect size, since they are tiny, minimal waste. Even better than sunflower seeds.
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