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Re: christophe changed in a bad way :/

Postby Pajarita » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:46 am

Msaad wrote:I want to add a thing, here in lebanon, the only food for parrots is those 2 mentioned earlier. christophe eats whatever I eat near him, he eats fruits and vegetables if I offer them. he feels lonely a lot bcz I'm always at uni and my parents are at work, but we all lovr him even my brother who give him snacks (bcz he is in the cage). I'm gonna start him a new diet, I'll see what I can find. talking to him is something that I do daily, but I'll give it more time. and I prefer on the forum two because we may get more advices.


Yes, it's the same in my country of birth: very limited commercial resources when it comes to pets food but, like Wolf said, you can make him food yourself. I don't feed mine any type of commercial food except for their seed mix dinner (my grays eat tw mixed combined: a cockatiel one with a few striped sunflowers, no black ones, and a small psittacine mix with no sunflowers but more safflower), I make their food myself. I buy whole grains (wheat, kamut, brown and black or red rice, oats, hulled barley and, sometimes quinoa, sometimes millet, sometimes teff, etc - you can add some cooked whole grain couscous to it, too), cook them, mix them with pulses (lentils and small white beans), some 'good' seeds (flax and sesame) and cooked and diced vegetables (corn, peas, carrots, green beans, broccoli, kale, sweet potatoes, hominy corn and one other ingredient which varies from batch to batch, could be yucca, could be artichoke hearts, could be palm hearts, could be beets, etc). This becomes the 'basic' mix which I split it into daily portions, put it in freezer baggies and freeze it. I think that, with one or a few birds, buying large portions and preparing it all at once so you can freeze daily portions works out best both for the pocket and in terms of saving work.
Why don't you try something like that? Now, at the beginning, you will have to offer just the grains without any vegetables because, as she is so used to eating seeds, she might reject them but, if you take away her seeds in the evening and mix a few of them with the grains in the morning, she will start eating them. Then, when you see her eating this, you start adding veggies to the mix, one by one and gradually until the mixture is half grains and pulses and half vegetables. For dinner, offer her a low protein seed mix like one for budgies or even canaries and one or two nuts (almonds, walnuts, etc).

But, my dear, she needs to come out for, at least, 2 hours a day so try to figure out a way where you can do this in a safe way and without your brother been around to get freaked out by it. Even the worst criminals have time out of their cell on a daily basis.
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Re: christophe changed in a bad way :/

Postby Msaad » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:17 pm

he used to like me a lot, I used to put my finger in his mouth, or in his cage and he used to shake my finger, but after shaving half of my hair, he started to be scared, and bits me every time I tried to approach him. he eats from my hand inside and outside the cage, he've been always scared of steping on my hand, dunno why. he was target trained, but dunno if he still remember it. I speak to him whenever I'm near him, so it depends if I'm at home. he got some wooden toys fruit flavoured that he used to play with. I once got him a mirror with bell and hanged it in his cage, started pushing it and hitting and bitting it and everyone in the house so I removed it.
in addition, there is something weird that I noticed a lots of time, if he is lonely or if I changed his food diet like I did today, he starts pushing his food outside the cage wich lead my parents to be mad.
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Re: christophe changed in a bad way :/

Postby Msaad » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:26 pm

Pajarita wrote:
Why don't you try something like that? Now, at the beginning, you will have to offer just the grains without any vegetables because, as she is so used to eating seeds, she might reject them but, if you take away her seeds in the evening and mix a few of them with the grains in the morning, she will start eating them. Then, when you see her eating this, you start adding veggies to the mix, one by one and gradually until the mixture is half grains and pulses and half vegetables. For dinner, offer her a low protein seed mix like one for budgies or even canaries and one or two nuts (almonds, walnuts, etc).

actually he really likes vegetables and fruits and he gets them every day specially red chilli
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Re: christophe changed in a bad way :/

Postby Wolf » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:04 pm

OK, that is really good that he eats fruits and veggies, which is different than you told us at first. You said that he only eats peanuts and sunflower seeds. But that's ok, we will go with all of this. so what fruits and veggies does he eat? are they cooked or raw? He is only pushing the food out because he doesn't want it, it is possible that he doesn't realize that it is food. When they are young, their parents teach them how to eat and they also teach them what to eat, so if what you gave him was new to him he won't know what it is. Many times you have to eat some in front of him while making a big to do about how good it is until he get curious enough to want to try it at which time you give him little bitty pieces to try. You may have to do this several times before he will accept it as food. And some things he may try but decide that he doesn't like it. It can be frustrating at times.
Fruit flavored wood? I'm not sure that that would be good for him. Mine get plain untreated pine wood toys, no mirrors and a couple of bells. They also get foraging toys, which are usually made from palm fronds, which is braided and made so that you can put a treat inside of it for the bird to find. And crumpled newspaper is their favorite to tear up, they just love it.
You cut your hair and it changed the way that you look, so he didn't recognize this strange person who started to mess with him. He did not recognize you as you and he bite the stranger. This is normal as he was fearful of this strange person and what that person might do to him. Now, I don't know if you are aware of any of his body language or what any of it means. Learning to read his body language can help you to avoid getting bit, which is always a good thing. You don't get bitten and he doesn't learn to bite. With my Grey, when her feathers on her back, neck and chest are stood up briefly and her eyes get small, she will bite if I put my hand close enough. Yours will probably do something very similar to this.
By talking to him, I am not referring to saying something as I go by, while that doesn't hurt it has no value in reassuring him and earning his trust. He needs you to take at least10 to 15 minutes twice a day to just hang out with him talking to him. This will help him learn to trust you quicker than anything else that I know of.
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Re: christophe changed in a bad way :/

Postby JaydeParrot » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:37 pm

I've put on a bandana and my bird hasn't recognised me, went crazy until it heard me talk to it and say what I usually say to it. Your parrot may not recognise you with your new haircut, talk calmly to it, use it's name and hopefully it will realise that you're the same person just with a different hair style.

If I was going to have my hair cut I'd try to get my bird to watch so it would understand that different hairstyle doesn't mean different person.
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