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IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby jmj » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:23 am

Hi guys and girls,

I have to move out of my property for 6 weeks soon and unfortunately the friends house i'm going to is not bird friendly. I bought Buddy about 8 months ago and he's pretty charming.

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The lady I bought him from is an experienced keeper and has kindly offered to look after him, but there are a few things that i'm worried about.

He has a pretty large cage so it's not able to go with him. The first few weeks I had him he lived in a smaller cage about 2ft wide 4ft tall so he may have to go back in that temporarily.

Also where he's going there is various other birds, i'm confident he will be well looked after but he's not seen another bird since the day I took him home, is it likely that meeting some new friends then being bought back home alone after 6 weeks is going to have a big impact? Or is he likely to forget about them when he's back to normal?

Lastly we're pretty bonded so 6 weeks is a long time apart :( Is he likely to remember me when he comes home after all his antics? I expect some work to do but I don't want him to have to start from the beginning if I can help it. If anyone has any advice as to how to get him to settled back in as easily as possible it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any advice
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby Wolf » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:22 am

This is a situation that should be avoided if at all possible and I am sure that you are well aware of that. But If I may ask, how is the place you are going not bird friendly, Is it that the bird is not allowed or some other reason?
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby jmj » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:10 am

I totally agree but this was unforseen and unavoidable unfortunately. I'm trying to think of other ways or somewhere where he can come with me but no luck yet.

It's not suitable mainly due to other pets, including cats which I beleive have a soft spot for birds.
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby liz » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:23 am

If he is caged when you are not with him he will be safe from the other pets and you could still get together time.

He will not forget you in six weeks but he will change while there. He will be used to the other birds. If it were me I would hold on to him no matter what. If the no matter does not work I would have to bring one of his new friends home with him. He will not want to be alone again.
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby mrbowlerhat » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:48 pm

liz wrote:If he is caged when you are not with him he will be safe from the other pets and you could still get together time.

If he's in the same room as a cat when no human is around, then no, he definitely won't be safe even if he's caged. I would never let my cats be around my birds, no matter if they're caged or not. Not even when I'm there to be honest.
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby jmj » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:04 pm

liz wrote:If he is caged when you are not with him he will be safe from the other pets and you could still get together time.

He will not forget you in six weeks but he will change while there. He will be used to the other birds. If it were me I would hold on to him no matter what. If the no matter does not work I would have to bring one of his new friends home with him. He will not want to be alone again.


Thanks for the reply, i'm sure he would be ok I just couldn't take the risk with cats i'd never forgive myself.

That is what i'm most worried about. The small cage and that he will get over but taking away his friends i'd feel more guilty about.
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby Wolf » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:35 pm

One of the biggest issues in my mind is that if you are gone for this time that your bird will grieve as it will feel that you are dead. That is the only reason that makes any sense to it for why you are suddenly no longer there. If you will be in a separate room that you can keep the cats out of, then I would consider keeping the bird with me.
I also worry because if your bird is going to a place with other birds in it the largest amount of its time there would or should be in quarantine, especially if your bird has not been exposed to them previously to this.
I would not want you to put your bird at risk for any reason, but these are the concerns that I have, and I am sure that they weigh heavily on you as well. In the end you will need to do whatever it is that you think will protect your bird the best. I wish that I had better answers for you on this , but I don't.
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby jmj » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:37 am

That's a good point and probably just as bad as taking him back from the other birds, if not worse! I appreciate your thoughts.

I've just spoken to the person that's having him to arrange it properly and she's said he can be kept separate to the others and I can see him when I want which makes me feel better! Hopefully he should be fine and if he can hear the others may even learn his first few words :)
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby liz » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:02 am

jmj, this last post of yours makes a big difference. I thought you were going far away but if you are close enough to visit that changes everything.

Bye Bye means leaving but returning. If I go bye bye they know I will return. If I ask them to go bye bye then they get to go in the car and come back home.

When my mother was bed ridden, Rambo spent a lot of time with her. When she went on a permanent bye bye, Rambo gave her one day and then starting looking for her. He would call her and even ask me "Grandma?". It was 2 weeks or so when he stopped searching for her. He still calls her from time to time.

I would teach him bye bye and visit him as much as possible. You may have to consider a friend for when you take him home.
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Re: IRN going away for 6 weeks

Postby Pajarita » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:51 pm

Hmmm, what a difficult situation... It does seem to me as no win one, I am sorry to say. On the one hand, quarantining him seems a bit useless because you know he is healthy, what you don't know is whether he will end up catching something from the other birds so unless he stays all on his own the entire 6 weeks, the quarantine is pretty useless in terms of avoiding contagion. Then, on the other hand, you have the fact that this way he will be all alone and that's not good. But, if he goes with the other birds, he might bond with one just to be separated in a matter of weeks (he is going through puberty and might very well fall in love with another bird) and, even if he doesn't, he would still miss the companionship of other parrots when he goes back with you.

Visiting is iffy at best because unless you can visit every single day for hours at a time, going to see him, say, two or three times a week for an hour or two at a time is not really going to benefit him. I know it sounds crazy but you need to look at things from his point of view: his beloved companion (you) leaves him in a stranger's house with unfamiliar birds and unfamiliar human (confusion, depression). Then his companion (whom he feels should never had left to begin with because that is the way of parrot companionship), shows up and he is filled with joy (Hallelujah, he has come back for me!), stays for a little while and abandons him all over again (back to confusion and depression). A couple of days go by and the whole drama happens again... and again... and again for 6 weeks. Good for you because you understand that the situation is temporary and enjoy your visits with him but not good for him who doesn't understand what is going on (and never could because abandonment is not something they are supposed to ever experience) and suffers every time as if it was the first time he got left behind.

I take in birds that other people no longer can keep for different reasons and one of my rules is that they cannot visit for, at least, a year after the bird comes to me (and nobody ever comes after a year but that's not the point) because it's cruel to the bird. Parrots are like children who, even if the parents abuse them (and I am NOT saying this is the case with your parrot, I am simply making a comparison to a situation that we are all aware of), they want to stay with them so, when they go to live with somebody else, even if the care is much better than what they got before, the only way to make it easier on them in the long run is the cold turkey way.

I really don't know what to recommend... Personally, I would put the bird in my bedroom and put a lock on the door to ensure the cats stay outside or, if the accommodations did not allow this (like if you are going to be sleeping on a sofa in a living room of a one bedroom apartment and the owners of the apartment were not willing to lock the cats in their bedroom -you might try explaining to them how different it is with parrots and ask them to do this for you and him), I would look for a different place where to crash for a few weeks. If this is absolutely impossible, I would bring him to the lady, not put him in quarantine so, at least, he has the company of the other parrots, not go to see him until I am ready to pick him up for good and deal with whatever emotional consequences this might bring. You will have to have him checked by an avian vet after you pick him up and it will be hard on both of you (more on him than you) but I think it's what would work best in the long run.
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