Leg rings

[Chantilly]

Verry interesting reading this, I know that Tillys just says 182 and thats it...

Hmmm, it seems to me that she was the 128th baby born on the year 2013 and that she could have come from the Crazy Parrot Aviary in Florida (the 14 could be the GCC 'code' for them as they do breed different species). Why don't you email them and see what they say?

We were told that she was born in 2014 by the pet shop.. We live in uk so she could of been from Florida?? The pet shop says that they are hand picked from local qualified breeders but that's a lie.. She has a green leg band.. Which is a 2014 band in Australia and UK (uk which I live).. So is it correct?? I might give them a email, what should I say??

Aww lucky! i would love to go to england someday! Mabye the pet shop would be able to give you the breeders details?

[BabyBird]

It is not likely to be from Florida if you are in UK.

Yeah thanks. So where is she from? Is she born in 2014 or 2013??

[Wolf]

I really don't know. To begin with, here in the USA, there was never any legal requirement for breeders to band their birds, or to register the bands if they did use them or even to maintain records of any kind. This makes it difficult to use them for more than just to find the year of birth, which in your case I believe to be 2014 since the 14 was turned 90 deg. from the others. The information on the bands as well as the codes used were also different depending on the manufacturer of the bands, The only thing that was consistent was the year of hatch was normally turned and that the rings from the breeder were all solid rings. The split rings were really no different in the records being kept or the information recorded the were supposed to tell where a bird came from, where and when they entered the country.
If the band on your bird is solid then it is not likely that it was imported so it should have been hatched in the UK. I do not know anything currently about where to look for information found on the bands in the UK nor what the requirements might be. Perhaps one of our members from there could give you some more information on this.

[BabyBird]

I really don't know. To begin with, here in the USA, there was never any legal requirement for breeders to band their birds, or to register the bands if they did use them or even to maintain records of any kind. This makes it difficult to use them for more than just to find the year of birth, which in your case I believe to be 2014 since the 14 was turned 90 deg. from the others. The information on the bands as well as the codes used were also different depending on the manufacturer of the bands, The only thing that was consistent was the year of hatch was normally turned and that the rings from the breeder were all solid rings. The split rings were really no different in the records being kept or the information recorded the were supposed to tell where a bird came from, where and when they entered the country.
If the band on your bird is solid then it is not likely that it was imported so it should have been hatched in the UK. I do not know anything currently about where to look for information found on the bands in the UK nor what the requirements might be. Perhaps one of our members from there could give you some more information on this.

Okay thankyou, she has a solid ring. So she is not imported, I'll do my best to find out where she came from, thanks again wolf

[Pajarita]

Wolf is correct. I was going by the USA registry, I don't really know how to read an UK band. I checked online and there doesn't seem to be a pattern to them. And using a color to determine the year the bird was born is optional, apparently, and only if you use the colored aluminum rings (there are also stainless steel rings that are silver) with 2011 been dark blue, 2012 red, 2013 black, 2014 light green, 2015 violet and 2016 orange.

Here in USA, whether you need to band or not and what says on the band depends on the state regulations. I live in NJ and the regulations are that all parrots larger than a small conure need to be close banded and the band needs to show the two letter abbreviation for the state (NJ), the breeder's ID (usually letters but it could also be alphanumeric), the year the bird was born (usually crosswise on the band) and the number identifying that particular bird. There is also called a Bird Band registry but most large commercial breeders don't register their bands because they don't want the people who buy from stores they supply to identify them (and, sometimes, it's a requirement of the stores as they don't want the people to know they buy from bird mills that are as far away as California or Florida -they ALWAYS tell you they only buy from local breeders but it's not true) so, although there is a Band Registry, it doesn't really include the bird mills.

If I were you, I would ask the shop where you got it for the name of the breeder although this is information that should be on the hatch certificate (the breeder is the one that issues it, not the store) and, if you cannot get anywhere with them, I would contact the larger suppliers of bird bands (you call them rings) and ask if they can identify the band as one of their own.

[BabyBird]

Wolf is correct. I was going by the USA registry, I don't really know how to read an UK band. I checked online and there doesn't seem to be a pattern to them. And using a color to determine the year the bird was born is optional, apparently, and only if you use the colored aluminum rings (there are also stainless steel rings that are silver) with 2011 been dark blue, 2012 red, 2013 black, 2014 light green, 2015 violet and 2016 orange.

Here in USA, whether you need to band or not and what says on the band depends on the state regulations. I live in NJ and the regulations are that all parrots larger than a small conure need to be close banded and the band needs to show the two letter abbreviation for the state (NJ), the breeder's ID (usually letters but it could also be alphanumeric), the year the bird was born (usually crosswise on the band) and the number identifying that particular bird. There is also called a Bird Band registry but most large commercial breeders don't register their bands because they don't want the people who buy from stores they supply to identify them (and, sometimes, it's a requirement of the stores as they don't want the people to know they buy from bird mills that are as far away as California or Florida -they ALWAYS tell you they only buy from local breeders but it's not true) so, although there is a Band Registry, it doesn't really include the bird mills.

If I were you, I would ask the shop where you got it for the name of the breeder although this is information that should be on the hatch certificate (the breeder is the one that issues it, not the store) and, if you cannot get anywhere with them, I would contact the larger suppliers of bird bands (you call them rings) and ask if they can identify the band as one of their own.

thankyou very much I call them rings/bands. I'll carry on my quest of finding the supplier thanks