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[SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby ladydana » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:05 am

:meyers: :meyers: hi everyone ! i would like to hear how u decide to get a second parrot and how the first parrot feel ? friendly ? jealous ? or everything bad and turn to okay ? i would loves to hear your babies story to have a good reference !

i have a jardine baby 6 months year old , he come to my home 3 months. and i love him soooo much , he is so cuddle and a a bit jealous . he can't leave me when i go to washroom or leave him alone. and he hate my boyfriend much. when my boyfriend kiss me , he kiss more than 100 times :D he is just a sweet baby. however, i have a 16 year old dog in my home , thats my mums dog. my jardine baby wanna to play with her. but my dog just ignored him and not patient with her little brother .he always wants to find my dog and play with him :( every time i see him so excited but he cant be a friend with her it seems so sad. but i dont know do i get a friend to him. i would be happy to have 2 parrots. but i am not sure do he feel okay to have more one :)

i would love u to share how do u decided and get the second babies to home !
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby Chantilly » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:19 am

Hello!
I decided to get a second parrot because I honestly couldnt resist :lol:
My family and I have a GCC (Tilly), and she is a wonderful parrot and a very cudly and cheeky birdy. I
must say that she is like a sister to me. And allot more 'human' than any other bird.
Anyway I volonteer at a parrot sanctuary each week and I fell in love with a lorikeet that was previously someones pet and just surrendered as I started volonteering. The lorikeet (Shrek) got attached to me over the 6 months, and theowners decided to let me have her. And I was so overjoyed to be able to have her... Tilly wasnt though :roll:

Tilly was more snappy for about the first month of having Shrek, but she is back to normal now, I think because she now understands that my having Shrek is not actually taking anything away from her including her 1 on 1 attention. Shrek and Tilly definately are not friends though, and If I had them out together they would most likely kill eachother. :gcc: vs. :rainbow:
Shrek is a one on one bird. Which means if anyone tries to pet her while she is on me, they are bit hard.
But I dont regret getting Shrek, and I beleive I am coping with the two. It is undoubtebly more work though and I have allot of improvements to my 'schedual' I still have to make :lol: .
Also Tilly is very amused by our dogs too, and she used to fly on them if she was out at the same time as they were inside (we have stopped letting that happen though.) I dont think getting a second parrot would be bad, but they might not get along, or they might be bestest of friends.
And anthough she be little, she is fierce ~Shakespeare
- Tilly & Shrek
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby Viatrixa » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:52 am

Hiya! I'm seriously still fresh as a newly baked cake with parrots but so I'm FAR from an expert but I'll answer in a super basic way, based only on what I've been reading around these forums & research!

Parrots are, as you undoubtedly know, flock animals. This doesn't necessarily mean however, that every type of parrot who has a mate will have a blissful relationship. Poicephalus parrots, at least from the research I did, may at times, after years of bonded mate bliss suddenly decide it just isn't working out and MAY develop some... shall we say, "martial problems" (just keeping the wording light hearted to emphasize the fact that I'm no expert here!)

HOWEVER: Here's an article I found about the mating relationships of parrots:

http://pets.thenest.com/parrots-pair-life-12861.html

PLEASE do forgive me if this article is somehow incorrect or misleading! I just bookmarked it and decided to fish it out since it had this to say about Poicephs:

"Most parrots pair for life. They form strong bonds; once they do, they should not be separated. Scarlet macaws, lovebirds and Puerto Rican parrots are examples of monogamous parrots. Poicephalus parrots, however, can be fickle. BirdChannel.com reports that these parrots in the wild are known to switch mates after years together. Poicephalus kept as pets may grow aggressive toward each other after years of bliss. It can get bloody when Poicephalus parrots decide their relationship isn't working out."

Quoted directly from the article.

Here's another interesting link I found pertaining to the behaviour & mating of jardines:

https://www.beautyofbirds.com/poicephalusparrotbreeding.html

BUT! I'm not an expert on these guys; and I hope that the links I managed to provide will at least shed some light and bits and bobs of info? If not, I -PROFUSELY- apologize. I have a huge list of these links saved up just in case. SO ALL YOU LOVELY EXPERTS WITH YOUR LOVELY FLOCKS! Shed some light here ;) Let us know which links give actual accurate information! Share us your experiences! People on these forums have recommended that I get a lady friend for my lovely green baby, which is what I intend to do. (though oddly enough I've even gotten suggestions that he could be just as happy with a male buddy, or even one of a different species but... I myself am leaning towards a lady ringneck.

And as a purely newbish question: I'd love for some jardine experts share their opinion (XD and bash the links if they give bad info!) But yeah, all I can recommend is RESEARCH! Read up on it. BUT MOST OF ALL! Ask these lovely forum people. They have been absolutely welcoming and very kind and straight forward about any questions I've EVER had. They all get answered, and I get lovely advice too. Research

(I'd love to learn more too because I want to know more about different parrots I myself!) After all, not all info out there is accurate. Far from it - different owners and people who have more, actual experience with these guys may shed some better light on your lovely jardine ;)

What I don't know is how they'd behave with parrots of other species at all; they MAY or MAY NOT need a "mate" that's of the space species? I -HONESTLY have zero clue about this.

FOR NOW: I'll let the lovey experts weigh in here ;) ! AND GOOD LUCK finding a new lovely flock candicate! <3
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby ladydana » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:37 am

Chantilly wrote:Hello!
I decided to get a second parrot because I honestly couldnt resist :lol:
My family and I have a GCC (Tilly), and she is a wonderful parrot and a very cudly and cheeky birdy. I
must say that she is like a sister to me. And allot more 'human' than any other bird.
Anyway I volonteer at a parrot sanctuary each week and I fell in love with a lorikeet that was previously someones pet and just surrendered as I started volonteering. The lorikeet (Shrek) got attached to me over the 6 months, and theowners decided to let me have her. And I was so overjoyed to be able to have her... Tilly wasnt though :roll:

Tilly was more snappy for about the first month of having Shrek, but she is back to normal now, I think because she now understands that my having Shrek is not actually taking anything away from her including her 1 on 1 attention. Shrek and Tilly definately are not friends though, and If I had them out together they would most likely kill eachother. :gcc: vs. :rainbow:
Shrek is a one on one bird. Which means if anyone tries to pet her while she is on me, they are bit hard.
But I dont regret getting Shrek, and I beleive I am coping with the two. It is undoubtebly more work though and I have allot of improvements to my 'schedual' I still have to make :lol: .
Also Tilly is very amused by our dogs too, and she used to fly on them if she was out at the same time as they were inside (we have stopped letting that happen though.) I dont think getting a second parrot would be bad, but they might not get along, or they might be bestest of friends.



this is a very sweet story u telling me ! thank you ! i learn more from your experience!
you are really good owners ! this was a very amazing thing u do well with them and fair :3
also one question i would like to ask u , have your birds stand in a very near place or one of it come to each other very close and try to attack ?

i am really care my first parrot what he feel and what he doesnt like .
he is jealous but i can notice he really want to have a friends.
i think it is a "he" i think i will get the same type of bird to him .
because i feel sad he feel jealous me and my bf.
i dont want him to think i am his partner.
thats would not a good feeling for him in his life.
i hope he can get a friend or partner :)

i would loves to have another parrot. becasue i want to too !
he is a 6 month baby . i hope he can tries to have more parrots friend or choose his friend by his own :D need to think more carefully and let him meet more friend !
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby Wolf » Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:55 am

Getting a second bird, especially one that you want to be a friend to your first bird can be a rather tricky undertaking. First of all, as with most other Poicelphalus parrots they can be really finicky and not accept the other bird even if it is of the same species and of the opposite sex, which is the easiest way to provide a friend for your bird. And that is really the good news, but it does not mean that it can't happen, because it can, but you have to be careful and pay attention to the ages of the birds as well as to take your time making introductions, but you have to be prepared that despite your best efforts that they may not be friends.

I think that if you want a second bird and can provide for them both as separate individuals without taking too much time from the first bird then it can be a very good thing to do. It is even better if they are of the same species because even if you can't have them share a cage, you may still be able to let them out to play together with supervision. And when you are gone they can still talk to each other from their own cage. This is actually a great benefit to both of them. They can become good friends as long as they have their own space and if introductions are done right they may even play well together. The thing is that you will not know how it is going to work out until you try it.

Given that you have not had your bird very long, I would probably hold off on a second bird until you get to understand each other better. A case in point is that when your bird reaches maturity it's personality is going to change and no one can tell you how much it will change, When your bird reaches puberty it may decide to choose someone other than yourself as its chosen human and the bond that the bird forms is a mate bond as it is the only bond that it can form.

Think about this long and carefully and do your research and ask lots of questions before deciding what you want to do.
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby ladydana » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:43 am

Wolf wrote:Getting a second bird, especially one that you want to be a friend to your first bird can be a rather tricky undertaking. First of all, as with most other Poicelphalus parrots they can be really finicky and not accept the other bird even if it is of the same species and of the opposite sex, which is the easiest way to provide a friend for your bird. And that is really the good news, but it does not mean that it can't happen, because it can, but you have to be careful and pay attention to the ages of the birds as well as to take your time making introductions, but you have to be prepared that despite your best efforts that they may not be friends.

I think that if you want a second bird and can provide for them both as separate individuals without taking too much time from the first bird then it can be a very good thing to do. It is even better if they are of the same species because even if you can't have them share a cage, you may still be able to let them out to play together with supervision. And when you are gone they can still talk to each other from their own cage. This is actually a great benefit to both of them. They can become good friends as long as they have their own space and if introductions are done right they may even play well together. The thing is that you will not know how it is going to work out until you try it.

Given that you have not had your bird very long, I would probably hold off on a second bird until you get to understand each other better. A case in point is that when your bird reaches maturity it's personality is going to change and no one can tell you how much it will change, When your bird reaches puberty it may decide to choose someone other than yourself as its chosen human and the bond that the bird forms is a mate bond as it is the only bond that it can form.

Think about this long and carefully and do your research and ask lots of questions before deciding what you want to do.




thank you for your suggestion it is very useful ! i dont know they are a finicky parrots :lol: :lol:
i think i would let him to try to see more different parrot form other owners .
i am afraid when they growing up , they never see other bird , they think they are human. and feel wired to see a bird.
also i would like to try to go to the parrot shop to let him choose some parrot , and take alook too.
i just dont know is it work . but i think i need to have a tired.

but it would be okay if he doesnt want a friend ! i am just feel so upset everyday he finds my dog but my dog doesnt like him :lol:
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby ladydana » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:52 am

Viatrixa wrote:Hiya! I'm seriously still fresh as a newly baked cake with parrots but so I'm FAR from an expert but I'll answer in a super basic way, based only on what I've been reading around these forums & research!

Parrots are, as you undoubtedly know, flock animals. This doesn't necessarily mean however, that every type of parrot who has a mate will have a blissful relationship. Poicephalus parrots, at least from the research I did, may at times, after years of bonded mate bliss suddenly decide it just isn't working out and MAY develop some... shall we say, "martial problems" (just keeping the wording light hearted to emphasize the fact that I'm no expert here!)

HOWEVER: Here's an article I found about the mating relationships of parrots:

http://pets.thenest.com/parrots-pair-life-12861.html

PLEASE do forgive me if this article is somehow incorrect or misleading! I just bookmarked it and decided to fish it out since it had this to say about Poicephs:

"Most parrots pair for life. They form strong bonds; once they do, they should not be separated. Scarlet macaws, lovebirds and Puerto Rican parrots are examples of monogamous parrots. Poicephalus parrots, however, can be fickle. BirdChannel.com reports that these parrots in the wild are known to switch mates after years together. Poicephalus kept as pets may grow aggressive toward each other after years of bliss. It can get bloody when Poicephalus parrots decide their relationship isn't working out."

Quoted directly from the article.

Here's another interesting link I found pertaining to the behaviour & mating of jardines:

https://www.beautyofbirds.com/poicephalusparrotbreeding.html

BUT! I'm not an expert on these guys; and I hope that the links I managed to provide will at least shed some light and bits and bobs of info? If not, I -PROFUSELY- apologize. I have a huge list of these links saved up just in case. SO ALL YOU LOVELY EXPERTS WITH YOUR LOVELY FLOCKS! Shed some light here ;) Let us know which links give actual accurate information! Share us your experiences! People on these forums have recommended that I get a lady friend for my lovely green baby, which is what I intend to do. (though oddly enough I've even gotten suggestions that he could be just as happy with a male buddy, or even one of a different species but... I myself am leaning towards a lady ringneck.

And as a purely newbish question: I'd love for some jardine experts share their opinion (XD and bash the links if they give bad info!) But yeah, all I can recommend is RESEARCH! Read up on it. BUT MOST OF ALL! Ask these lovely forum people. They have been absolutely welcoming and very kind and straight forward about any questions I've EVER had. They all get answered, and I get lovely advice too. Research

(I'd love to learn more too because I want to know more about different parrots I myself!) After all, not all info out there is accurate. Far from it - different owners and people who have more, actual experience with these guys may shed some better light on your lovely jardine ;)

What I don't know is how they'd behave with parrots of other species at all; they MAY or MAY NOT need a "mate" that's of the space species? I -HONESTLY have zero clue about this.

FOR NOW: I'll let the lovey experts weigh in here ;) ! AND GOOD LUCK finding a new lovely flock candicate! <3



thank you for your share ! it is difficult to search this great information in hong kong.
no much people having parrot here .i take time to read all of them .
some people say jardine is a quiet , whole family suitable. but mine one is sensitive , and jealous, need me to notice him every seconds. it is a bit different than the information , but i loves what he like . i am afraid he would be change when he grows up and hate his friend or partner :0..... really need to consider more. My jardine is cuddle but not for everyone. maybe try to meet some parrots and know how he treats them :o u are very nice to share about it and search many reference for me . i hope some one have jardine can tell me about how are they too :D thank you very much !
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby Wolf » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:34 am

It is very hard to tell you anything more than how their parrot is because they each have their very own personality. I do not mean to be rude in any way so if you think that what I am about to say is rude, please forgive me as I do not mean it that way. Trying to tell you about one parrot is not too hard but to tell you that this is how they all are would be like saying that I have met one American or Chinese and they are all the same. The thing is that they are just like the rest of us and no two of them are the same. Yes their are some general characteristics but they are subject to the birds own personality.

I think that if you feel like you want to get a second parrot then the first thing to do is to make sure what the sex of your current parrot is. This is best done through a DNA test that you can either order online or have your avian vet do it for you. Then you will want to try and find another parrot of the same species that is very close to the same age and of the opposite sex as this will be the easiest ones to get to bond together.

The closest that I have to a Jardine's parrot is my Senegal, which I am pretty sure is the more aggressive of the two species. She was a real terror when she first came here, but now she is one of my sweetest birds and although she does like to play on her own, she really loves to spend a lot of her time with and on me.

We can help you with your birds, but you will have to decide what is best for you. If you would prefer that your bird spend less time on you and be more independent then perhaps a second bird, at this time would be just the thing for you and your bird. The difference is that it is harder to train two birds than it is two birds and the two of them will probably bond with each other and prefer each other more than being on you. You would need to quarantine them for at least 30 days and then introduce them slowly, beginning with placing their cages near to each other after the quarantine period is over.
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby pukeko » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:33 pm

Hi! I would actually say that, as young as your bird is, you may be better off getting another young one now and taking advantage of baby-sweetness to ease their introduction to each other and take advantage of the fact that babies pay attention to everyone, generally -- you are unlikely to lose your relationship and interactions at this stage. Baby animals are much easier to introduce to each other than adults, generally. Your point about growing up 'more bird' or 'more human' is an important one, and two babies would have a lot to teach each other about being birds, especially when they are trying out instinctive or maturation behaviors and finding someone who understands, unlike the slightly oblivious human ; )

I do not know how much of an affect having two grow up together would have on their likelihood of a drastically different adult relationship with you. I suspect that this has so many factors involved that prediction is pretty much impossible - the individual birds, their species, their relationships with you and each other, whether they have a good hands-off relationship with you before they mature (training is a great way of having a rich communicative and trusting relationship that doesn't involve cuddling), and how they live with you and each other (same cage? cage free? aviary to fly in? lots of time with you, or only after work?), etc. Just know that even two birds who grow up together may need entirely separate spaces and may have relationship changes amongst themselves, too. But if you can get a friend for your baby now, I say go for it! (after quarantine!) Growing up with someone else whose body speaks bird can only be a good thing for growing up knowing they are a bird : ) It will also probably make it less likely that they will try for human mates, but still no guarantees. And I agree with getting another of the same species, especially for any poicephalus. The one jardines I know is very sweet, but will casually attempt to kill any other bird who she can get to, from parrotlet to cockatoo.

Cheers, and good luck with your jardines! They are very beautiful, and very clever.
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Re: [SHARE] how do u decide to get a second parrot

Postby Wolf » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:17 pm

The biggest problem that you would have in getting another Jardines parrot to be with the one that you have now would be to find one of the right age. While it is important to know what sex it is so that you can get the other sex of bird could be a small problem the age is going to be the hardest thing for you since when they go through puberty they change and they no longer think the same way. An adult bird will not want to associate with a juvenile bird so it is easier to find a second bird after your bird has gone through puberty and becomes an adult because there will be more adult birds needing a home than juvenile birds and the age won't matter as much as long as both are adults.
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