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Re: Help: MICE!

Postby Cage Cleaner » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:54 am

Wolf wrote:Since I spent the majority of my life either working on cattle ranches in Nebraska and Wyoming or on Thoroughbred farms training race horses as well as breeding them. I don't think that it changes ones perspective as far as whether you allow your dogs and cats to live with you at all. Living with a cat or dog does not mean that it does not go outside to run and do other dog or cat things. It does put a crimp into their outside activities if you live in a city or in town but then cats that live inside also live well into their 20's and most dogs also end up living to a ripe old age which does vary considerably due to the breed. I think that you just follow the old adage that animals belong outside and not inside as your arguments to defend that position are not sound.


This is not even open for argument. This is a personal decision. As is yours.
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Re: Help: MICE!

Postby Cage Cleaner » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:58 am

Pajarita wrote:
Cage Cleaner wrote:
Pajarita wrote::lol: I don't think that where you live makes any difference on whether your pets live outdoors or indoors because, if I lived in a ranch, my cats and dogs would still live indoors. It's not the place, it's the philosophy.


If you lived on a ranch, you may have a different phisolophy. Indoor cats are deprived. They're fat and obese and deprived of a balanced diet.

Outdoor cats live 6 yeras shorter based on numbers taken from studies that include feral cats. The average age of a feral cat is 5 years old. Cats with a caretaker that are not feral live to their 20's because they are moving around and exercised all day. They also eat a hunting diet supplemented by whatever food you give them, along with vet care.



:lol: I have 7 cats right now but had up to 26 when I lived in Pa (I used to foster for a rescue group), all of them indoor cats and not a single one obese or even fat! (none of my animals is overweight, not a single one). And most definitely not deprived of a balanced diet (my animals eat better than me and my husband) or entertainment (they have their own room with windows, condos, shelves, beds, toys, etc).

Yours is a philosophy which has become obsolete, see these:
http://www.cat-world.com.au/indoor-vs-outdoor-cats
http://www.petco.com/Content/ArticleLis ... doors.aspx


Petco is a business that makes money on selling those things you list in your house. Therefore, it is in Petco's best interest to do what it does best: Sell. I am uninterested in hearing what Petco has to say, and never trust anything anyone at Petco has to say at face value.

Further, I could easily publish an article about outdoor cats being superior to indoor cats, post it online, and then paste it on the forum.

This is not a philosophy. This is a personal decision. You can keep 26 cats indoors if you choose to do so. I choose to never do that.
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Re: Help: MICE!

Postby marie83 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:19 am

In this country most people compromise and have cats that "live" indoors but go outside for a good portion of the day. In an ideal world I think this would be a good plan. Personally I don't have cats because of the small critters and birds, also I'm more allergic to them that I am most other animals. If I did have cats though I would have to base my choice on the safety of the area though- not too near busy roads or areas that use a lot of poisons for pest control.

I think in cage cleaners case that the animals owned by the family are either pets or working animals rather than both (I hope I haven't misinterpreted that?) with the parrots being pets and the cats being working animals? For myself I couldn't live that way and would prefer "both" I mean I wouldn't keep chickens in and outdoors (obviously they would have their own secure coop or something) but a couple of cats are no trouble at all to have wandering in and out whilst "working" although I wouldn't enjoy any presents they brought in.

I think the issue regarding longevity in cats is partly that in cats that go outdoors or live outdoors permenantly can have symptoms of illness that go undiagnosed for longer. If the cats peeing outdoors rather than in its litter tray your probably not going to notice if it has traces of blood in its urine until the cats really sick therefore veterinary treatments not going to be sought as promptly.
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Re: Help: MICE!

Postby morcowilson » Thu May 30, 2019 5:33 am

Hello there,


Pajarita wrote::lol: I don't think that where you live makes any difference on whether your pets live outdoors or indoors because, if I lived in a ranch, my cats and dogs would still live indoors. It's not the place, it's the philosophy.


:lol: :lol: I total agree with you but the problem is that in my room everywhere mice but I think I call mice control services to provide the company to contact but I don't know where to visit & which is the company call. You're near any company kill mice so please suggest me.
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Re: Help: MICE!

Postby Pajarita » Thu May 30, 2019 7:26 am

I don't kill animals that are not truly harmful in an immediate sort of way (like fleas, lice and mosquitoes, for example) and I certainly do not use poisons that are not specific and topical. I also had mice when I first moved into this house and, of course, birds living in the house makes it harder because they always have food available to them and the mice take advantage of that so it took me years to finally get rid of all of them but I did - mostly because, every now and then, one of them shows up. But using humane traps so I can release the mice outside and constantly covering all the holes they'd make works. I also took all the food out of the cages once the birds were asleep but, of course, that only works if you get up with the dawn to provide them with fresh food as the sun rises -which I do anyway because I am VERY strict about following a solar schedule and the same circadian cycles they would follow in the wild. It takes a long time at the beginning but it works without poisons or killing defenseless animals (I happen to love mice, I find them so cute!)
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