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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Eurycerus » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:55 am

You need to treat remaining on the finger/hand area, really emphasize this. It can be difficult but I can force Nika to step up by unbalancing her. I personally wouldn't grab Nika because that's a whole trust issue and I'm working on making grabbing fun. Do not even let him race up your arm, I'm sure you're fast enough to stop him from doing that.
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Ursibear » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:03 pm

I will when he stops flinging the treats away again :) I was more thinking of right now.
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby cml » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:19 pm

Ursibear wrote:
cml wrote:If you are going to work around it, show that he is NOT allowed there, it doesnt matter if he climbs up a thousand times a day. If he does, remove him. Put him on a sofa, a table, a chair, whatever. Keep removing him :) !

Yes, but how? :? Do i grab him? push him off? He won't step up when he's there :(

I either let him step up, or avoided him getting there in the first place, which is better :) . You can hold your arm in an angle so that its neigh impossible for a parrot to get to your shoulder if he's on your fingers.

Keep your arm in a 90 degree bend between the upper arm and your forearm, bend your hand out to the side so that its also at 90 degrees angle, but to the forearm. This way the parrot has nowhere to go, and will stay on your fingers!

Dont let him onto your arm, then he will just climp up your arm to your shoulder from the sound of it. In my case if Stitch tried to land on my shoulder I just ducked, but since your parrot doesnt fly you wont have to.
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Ursibear » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:12 pm

Well! i just finished the perch and i invited him out of the cage. I hindered him from climbing on my shoulder. He stopped at the forearm this time :thumbsup:
However, he seemed pretty offended. and when i lowered my hand to the perch for him to sit on, for about 10 seconds he was just pinning his eyes and fluffing/unfluffing, I really thought he would bite!
But he didn't. He is now sitting on his perch grumpily looking at me and reluctantly accepting head scratches.
I hope he gets over it because i really like looking at him :lol: He is so beautiful with his orange belly and his green tail!
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Grey_Moon » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:12 pm

I hate on birdtricks because they scam, overcharge and use a lot of your standard Hollywood tricks to rope people in. To boot, their philosophies use a lot of outdated and negative tactics that have been tossed around for a long time and are nothing new yet they're passed off as new n innovative.

And yes :P part of it is they look like such tools :P just kidding...although they really do...

Jacko does get nasty, but by and large we avoid triggers, she asks for head scratches from both of us and he knows when she's in mood to watch his step.
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Ursibear » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:31 am

Fair enough Grey, i agree with you then :)
By the way, you guys were right! Sisu is turning his back on me, when i put him on his perch :(
He is also unusually quiet this morning. He hasn't made a peep so far. He also keeps trying to regurgitate everytime i try to give him a kiss on the top of his head, even though nothing comes out.
He goes from being offended with me (turning his back) to loving me (trying to feed me) in like 2 seconds.
confused Ursibear is confoosed :?
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby marie83 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:43 am

Birds are confusing. I would advise you to just take things for what they are, you will give yourself a headache trying to figure out the changes in mood. As long as you learn the basic body language to start off with you will be finew but this can take time.
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Eurycerus » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:25 am

Ursibear wrote:He also keeps trying to regurgitate everytime i try to give him a kiss on the top of his head, even though nothing comes out.
He goes from being offended with me (turning his back) to loving me (trying to feed me) in like 2 seconds.?


You need to stop doing what is triggering him to psuedo regurgitate. It's not good for them to do it all the time. Nika has significantly slowed down due to hormone management. I actually wasn't doing anything because I figure I needed to earn her trust before touching her all over. :/ That's just me though. We are actually getting pretty close to trust earned now (I can pick her up and turn her over and stick my fingers under her wing and gently extend them a bit now, so exciting!) but now she never wants head scratches. She's a funny parrot.

Also the loving you thing. He can not trust you or like you but can be bonded to you. Nika was like that with me so don't put your guard down otherwise you might get a nice chomp. In addition, Nika has never fully regurgitated ever for some reason, but I still think it part way comes up which can cause damage.
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby Ursibear » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:33 am

marie83 wrote:Birds are confusing. I would advise you to just take things for what they are, you will give yourself a headache trying to figure out the changes in mood. As long as you learn the basic body language to start off with you will be finew but this can take time.

So true :D I have a bit of OCD when it comes to animals. When i get my animals i always do lots of research to make sure they have everything they need and that their "habitat" is the closest to their natural home as possible. I don't mind to give myself headaches if i get to have a clear conscience after :)
But i am sorry, I didn't mean to overcharge you guys ;) I am however very grateful for all your tips. they have helped a lot!
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Re: Parrot training gone terribly, terribly wrong

Postby cml » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:18 am

Ursibear wrote:So true :D I have a bit of OCD when it comes to animals. When i get my animals i always do lots of research to make sure they have everything they need and that their "habitat" is the closest to their natural home as possible.

Dont we all ^^?
How's it going today, are you managing to keep Sisu off your shoulders? And has your bf started interacting with him again?
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