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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby seagoatdeb » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:28 pm

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I dont think clipping should even be allowed like its cutting a birds feathers with no permission your bird cant say No or Yes and its not fair on the bird that he has to change his life for you I mean they love to fly they were born with the ability of flight and im sure you would love to be able to fly too.And you should listen to what Pajarita is saying because shes right.[/quote]

I hvae listened to everyone, but If I feel its wrong down deep in my soul I wont necessarily agree. We all do many things with our parrots and even our children that they cant give consent to, because we try to do whats in their best interest. You are trying to tell all parrot owners what the rule is. I am saying it is up to them to make an informed decision. I will not dictate and tell anyone what is absolutely right to do with their bird, unless the bird is in need of rescuing.
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby Wolf » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:53 pm

I agree that if you feel that something is not right that you should not agree to it, ever. Also I agree that it is up to the person who has the bird to make this type of choice. I also think that it does not take a lot of effort for them to know that if they must put the bird in its cage for its safety while they are gone that they pay attention to the time that they have. If I know that I have to leave in 30 minutes and the bird is not going to be cooperative about going back into its cage in that time frame then I don't let it out at that time. However, none of my birds ever refuse to come to me when I call them even when it means they will go into their cage. Yes, I have one that will bite me when I put her in and she doesn't want to go in, even though I give her a nut which she is happy about.
What I am saying is that there are ways to have enough trust from your bird so that even when it doesn't like something that you don't have to chase it because it will still come to you. I have not yet encountered a reason to clip their wings to work with them and eliminate any problem through other means.
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby seagoatdeb » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:03 pm

That is true they come back to you when you have their trust. Mine have always come to me, even if I needed Bribery at times...lol
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby Wolf » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:39 am

Hey, I am all for bribery, it can work wonders.
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby liz » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:55 am

Seagoat I love it. You should never trim a birds wings without the birds permission.
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby Pajarita » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:14 pm

seagoatdeb wrote: Flying is pointless if you are in prison.


Actually, I think that no parrot should live in a cage EVER -unless it's for medical reasons or the cage is so large that the bird can actually fly in it (but even then, it should also be let out for, at least, four hours a day). That's how radical I am when it comes to the way they should be kept :D

But, I am not as diplomatic as you are and don't believe that people should be allowed to make selfish decisions when it comes to living beings (I am a hard-core animal rights activist) and tell everybody what I think they should do (and that's why so many bird people don't like me :lol:)
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby ParrotsForLife » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:37 pm

liz wrote:Seagoat I love it. You should never trim a birds wings without the birds permission.

Actually that was me who said that not seagoat
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby seagoatdeb » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:04 am

Pajarita wrote:
Actually, I think that no parrot should live in a cage EVER -unless it's for medical reasons or the cage is so large that the bird can actually fly in it (but even then, it should also be let out for, at least, four hours a day). That's how radical I am when it comes to the way they should be kept :D
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Mine are kept out of their cages all day, with the door open so they can go in if they want. With two of us retired there is always someone to supervise, and I have areas set up in other rooms so if I am working in another room, a parrot can come with me. My young one, the Meyers goes to sleep as soon as it gets dark, but my Red Belly likes to sleep outside her cage in an orbiter that I made that is attached to the side of her cage. So I move her into her cage into an small orbiter I made that she loves to sleep in there, when I go to bed. She never wakes up crabby when I move her either, she is so sweet.
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby JessiMuse » Fri Oct 30, 2015 2:22 pm

When I got my new cockatiel, my mom clipped her wings without my permission, and I was so angry at her for it. By doing that, not only did she put my bird in more danger (I have a dog), but she went ahead and did what she thought was best for my bird. Now, my mom used to be a breeder of cockatiels, parakeets and finches, but that was such a long time ago, and she still bases her knowledge on the age old myths of keeping birds. Luckily, my bird came from a breeder who raised her birds to be flighted, and so she has the muscle in her wings to fly fairly well, despite being clipped.

Lucy (the cockatiel in question) is going through her juvenile molt now, so she'll finally be able to grow new flight feathers. At this point, she knows what the windows are, and she knows the house pretty well, so I'm not too worried about her flying into something, or getting stuck somewhere (especially if I'm there to get her out of whatever situation she gets in).

As for Dudley (my pionus), he doesn't really have enough muscle in his wings to stay in the air for long. He can glide, but he can't really generate a lift. Highest I've seen him get from the ground was about a foot. I plan on fixing that, though, along with every other health and behavior problem I need to fix.
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Re: How to Properly Clip a Parrot's Wings (Don't Clip at All)

Postby Pajarita » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:29 am

Forgive me for not remembering but isn't he an older bird with health issues? Because, although muscles can be strengthened with exercise, if he hasn't flown for year and years, the atrophy in his tendons might prevent him from ever flying again...
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