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Stages of growing up.

Postby Erithacus » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:42 am

These are my 3 green cheek babies. 5 hatched, 2 didn't make it.

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Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Wolf » Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:44 am

I love the video and think that you did a wonderful job with the editing to make this video. I did notice that the cages shown in this are not actually made for parrots which means that the coating is not going to hold up as well as it should for parrots. As for the young ones, I hope that they were kept mostly in the dark or very dim light until they started trying to climb out of the nest. My reason is that they are born in the dark because their eyes are not yet developed and the bright lights could damage their eyes.
Any way I still love the video. Oh, what are you feeding them? It looks to be homemade, I cook for all of my birds lots of whole grains and veggies with some fruit and fresh produce.
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Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Pajarita » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:46 am

Awww, sweet baby birds! (Not that I agree with breeding parrots for captivity, mind you!)

Yes, the cage shown is really no good, there are even rusted spots on it...

I don't know which babies died but if it was the smallest ones, it might have been because it seems to me (and, please, correct me if I am wrong but I saw babies of very different sizes in the clutch) that you did not ensure that the incubation period started on the same day for all the eggs. You might want to reconsider your methods as 40% infant mortality is really unacceptably high...
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Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Erithacus » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:43 pm

Wolf wrote:I love the video and think that you did a wonderful job with the editing to make this video. I did notice that the cages shown in this are not actually made for parrots which means that the coating is not going to hold up as well as it should for parrots. As for the young ones, I hope that they were kept mostly in the dark or very dim light until they started trying to climb out of the nest. My reason is that they are born in the dark because their eyes are not yet developed and the bright lights could damage their eyes.
Any way I still love the video. Oh, what are you feeding them? It looks to be homemade, I cook for all of my birds lots of whole grains and veggies with some fruit and fresh produce.


If you were referring to the 1st pic, it is a mini aviary. I don't keep my breeding birds in small cages.

The babies were pulled out when they were at 3 weeks old and kept in a diy brooder covered with cloth. I feed lots of fresh, raw, semi cooked and cooked food, puree (fruits, veggies and beans), mixed seeds and nuts (flax, sesame, chua, pumpkin, sunflower, hemp, walnut, macadamia and almond), sprouts, natural whole grains cereals and soaked grains.
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Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Erithacus » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:47 pm

Pajarita wrote:Awww, sweet baby birds! (Not that I agree with breeding parrots for captivity, mind you!)

Yes, the cage shown is really no good, there are even rusted spots on it...

I don't know which babies died but if it was the smallest ones, it might have been because it seems to me (and, please, correct me if I am wrong but I saw babies of very different sizes in the clutch) that you did not ensure that the incubation period started on the same day for all the eggs. You might want to reconsider your methods as 40% infant mortality is really unacceptably high...


I was taught to remove all the eggs, replace them with dummy eggs until the hen stopped laying eggs. Then change back the dummies with real ones. But then it was too late for me to do it. Nobody sells dummy eggs here. And it would take 2-3 weeks to receive the eggs if I purchased on ebay.

Maybe next time but I won't be breeding them so soon. Or maybe this could be the last.
Kilaya ...cag
Pipi, Zizi, Eclipse and Zico ... gcc
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Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Wolf » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:51 pm

Thank you for your response on the cage, I thought it better to inquire about it than to assume anything, because I like your birds too. What is chua, I have never heard of it?
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Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Erithacus » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:13 am

Sorry, typo error. Chia seeds.
Kilaya ...cag
Pipi, Zizi, Eclipse and Zico ... gcc
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Gender: This parrot forum member is male
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Location: Malaysia
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Types of Birds Owned: Congo African Grey, Green cheek conures, Lovebirds, Cockatiels and Bulbul.
Flight: Yes

Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Wolf » Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:59 am

Thank you, I know what chia seeds are. Dietary information is one of the things that I spend a lot of time researching and studying due to the discovery that the information generally available leads the majority of people to believe that most of the commercial feeds are more than adequate for their birds health and well being when in fact the opposite is true. Humans are very lax in this area when it comes to their own health and much worse when it comes to the animals in their care.
I have done very little research into the aspects of breeding birds, mostly due to the fact that I have no interest in breeding them, I will however take the time to study this part of parrot husbandry in detail as I feel that this information is very valuable even for those of us who will never breed our birds.
Wolf
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Gender: This parrot forum member is male
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Location: Lansing, NC
Number of Birds Owned: 6
Types of Birds Owned: Senegal
African Grey (CAG)
Yellow Naped Amazon
2Celestial Parrotlet
Budgie
Flight: Yes

Re: Stages of growing up.

Postby Pajarita » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:25 am

Erithacus wrote:I was taught to remove all the eggs, replace them with dummy eggs until the hen stopped laying eggs. Then change back the dummies with real ones. But then it was too late for me to do it. Nobody sells dummy eggs here. And it would take 2-3 weeks to receive the eggs if I purchased on ebay.

Maybe next time but I won't be breeding them so soon. Or maybe this could be the last.


Yes, that is exactly what you need to do. Usually, parrot breeders don't do it because when you breed commercially, it's a lot of work (you need to keep the eggs from different pairs separately, mark them, rotate them every day, make sure the temperature and humidity is right, etc) and, besides, parrots can count and would make sure they feed all the babies enough (something that passerines would sometimes not do as they tend to put food in the closest open beak so the little ones get stepped on by the bigger ones and don't get enough food ) but, if you want to do things right and, most especially, when you are dealing with young birds or birds with no experience, it's always best to do it.
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