seriously people.

[seagoatdeb]

I am sure they are nice people doing the best they can. Cockatiels are a species that cant defend themselves well against other parrots. I would never cage them with any other parrot that wasnt a cockatiel. Maybe they will rethink this after what happened.

[Pajarita]

Well, I tell you, these old owners obviously have their heart in the right place but, unfortunately, loving birds is not enough (and this is an argument that I have all the time with people). You need to do what is right by them and if you don't have the room or money for them, you shouldn't take them in. Mind you, they are not the only ones that ended up getting over their head, it's a common thing with rescue people. The thing with rescuers is that we all have a collector/hoarding streak in us or some sort of behavioral or emotional issue that makes us, in some ways, not really 'normal'. And I am not just dissing rescuers, I include myself. I ended up driving myself almost into the ground trying to keep all the animals under my care well. I was weighing 40 lbs less than I do now (and nobody would describe me now as anything but slim or average weight), I was sleeping less than 4 hours a day, working (and this was physical work) from 5 am to 11 pm non-stop, and ended up contracting pneumonia and with a malfunctioning immune system and blood so thin that when they did a biopsy on a swollen lymph node under my arm, I had to come back to the hospital because I would not stop bleeding. I lost my house, my children were desperate and my husband threatened to leave me if I did not close the rescue and stop volunteering. I did. Some manage to keep it under control, some don't and, some, like me, have a large family and a good husband that helps them make the right decision.

I repeat, loving them is not enough. Because when you have so many, you are either killing yourself or not taking good care of them. It's inevitable.

[Chantilly]

I do see what yous are both saying,

Well, I tell you, these old owners obviously have their heart in the right place but, unfortunately, loving birds is not enough (and this is an argument that I have all the time with people). You need to do what is right by them and if you don't have the room or money for them, you shouldn't take them in. Mind you, they are not the only ones that ended up getting over their head, it's a common thing with rescue people. The thing with rescuers is that we all have a collector/hoarding streak in us or some sort of behavioral or emotional issue that makes us, in some ways, not really 'normal'. And I am not just dissing rescuers, I include myself. I ended up driving myself almost into the ground trying to keep all the animals under my care well. I was weighing 40 lbs less than I do now (and nobody would describe me now as anything but slim or average weight), I was sleeping less than 4 hours a day, working (and this was physical work) from 5 am to 11 pm non-stop, and ended up contracting pneumonia and with a malfunctioning immune system and blood so thin that when they did a biopsy on a swollen lymph node under my arm, I had to come back to the hospital because I would not stop bleeding. I lost my house, my children were desperate and my husband threatened to leave me if I did not close the rescue and stop volunteering. I did. Some manage to keep it under control, some don't and, some, like me, have a large family and a good husband that helps them make the right decision.

I repeat, loving them is not enough. Because when you have so many, you are either killing yourself or not taking good care of them. It's inevitable.

I too, would however continue to take them in, you wouldnt believe how many unwanted parrots they get, cockatiels especially. I do however think the park was in better hands with the old owners than the new. The new owner is freaked out by playful macaws, I mean, yes, they are big parrots, but he is pooing his pants when he is with them i swear.

[Chantilly]

This is one of the sun conures in the main aivery, she is mates with a yellow irn :lol:, and loves to come and drink from my mouth, she isnt actually named, but i call her Mickey.

[Wolf]

Please don't allow any bird to eat or drink from your mouth. I know, very well their fascination about the human mouth but the bacteria in our mouth is very bad for a bird.

[Chantilly]

Please don't allow any bird to eat or drink from your mouth. I know, very well their fascination about the human mouth but the bacteria in our mouth is very bad for a bird.

I did not know this!, well I knew we had many bacteria in our mouth, but not that it was bad.

[Wolf]

I was very surprised, many years ago, upon reading that science said that our mouth was dirtier than our butts. Now to be truthful, I don't recall where I read it and so I can't say that it is 100% true, but I didn't argue about it then, so I must have believed it at the time.

[liz]

Please don't allow any bird to eat or drink from your mouth. I know, very well their fascination about the human mouth but the bacteria in our mouth is very bad for a bird.

I did not know this!, well I knew we had many bacteria in our mouth, but not that it was bad.

I have been so surprised that Wolf and Pajarita can catch something in my post that I was not even talking about. Like your comment about your mouth.
My only response when this happens is "I did not know what I did not know". There are so many things they have caught of mine and given me info for it. My kids are getting much better care because of this forum.
Even a Newby can come in with an observation that can help you or alert the knowing people to respond.

[Pajarita]

Please don't allow any bird to eat or drink from your mouth. I know, very well their fascination about the human mouth but the bacteria in our mouth is very bad for a bird.

I did not know this!, well I knew we had many bacteria in our mouth, but not that it was bad.

Oh, yes, we have more bad bacteria in our mouths a few hours AFTER brushing and using mouthwash than a dog has! They actually did an experiment on that and found that although humans have a smaller number, it's practically all bad bacteria. But the worst mouths are the cats' - it's almost impossible to get a deep cat bite that doesn't become infected.

[Chantilly]

Please don't allow any bird to eat or drink from your mouth. I know, very well their fascination about the human mouth but the bacteria in our mouth is very bad for a bird.

I did not know this!, well I knew we had many bacteria in our mouth, but not that it was bad.

I have been so surprised that Wolf and Pajarita can catch something in my post that I was not even talking about. Like your comment about your mouth.
My only response when this happens is "I did not know what I did not know". There are so many things they have caught of mine and given me info for it. My kids are getting much better care because of this forum.
Even a Newby can come in with an observation that can help you or alert the knowing people to respond.

I agree
I will make sure that nobody gets to drink from my mouth again, thanks! It is kind of funny though, because if she dosnt get my saliva she will start biting my lips and getting really grumpy!