Bad Nail Trim

[Wolf]

I need to do further research into this as all my medical book says is that too much calcium will result in renal disease, Renal is kidneys. It does not give me specific symptoms, so I need to do more research in order to give you an answer.

[Pajarita]

Please be careful to not overdo it as too much calcium is as much of a problem as too little.

How will I know if im giving too much

Well, for one thing, you should not diagnose low calcium on your own. Avian vets can't even use the regular blood test for it, they need an ionized calcium one.

Peely beaks are not only due to lack of calcium -as a matter of fact, one thing has really nothing to do with the other as beaks are not made out of calcium but keratin which is a type of protein. Sometimes you do see peely beaks on birds that are low in calcium but this is usually because they've had a bad diet and this has created several deficiencies. You also see long nails and bad beaks on birds that have liver malfunction because the liver is the organ that metabolizes protein and, if it's not working right, it messes everything up - but I don't think that is the problem here because your birds are too young to have liver problems from a diet (they could have them from metal poisoning, chronic stress, disease, etc).

The most common cause of too peely beaks is a lack of betacarotene or eating an inferior type of protein (do you feed hemp, quinoa and/or nuts to them?).

[Wolf]

Tiko the Grey, if I am correct that Tiko is the Grey, is old enough to have this type of calcium deficiency but they also respond to the increase in calcium in a matter of minutes and hours whereas with mammals it can take 24 hours or longer so even if there is a calcium deficiency the first remedial dose will correct it and then they just need the correct balance from that time forward, If you are feeding them a pellet food once a day the chances are that there would be too much calcium rather than a deficiency. This is intended to be used in addition to the information supplied by Pajarita and not to replace any of what she said.

[ParrotsForLife]

Please be careful to not overdo it as too much calcium is as much of a problem as too little.

How will I know if im giving too much

Well, for one thing, you should not diagnose low calcium on your own. Avian vets can't even use the regular blood test for it, they need an ionized calcium one.

Peely beaks are not only due to lack of calcium -as a matter of fact, one thing has really nothing to do with the other as beaks are not made out of calcium but keratin which is a type of protein. Sometimes you do see peely beaks on birds that are low in calcium but this is usually because they've had a bad diet and this has created several deficiencies. You also see long nails and bad beaks on birds that have liver malfunction because the liver is the organ that metabolizes protein and, if it's not working right, it messes everything up - but I don't think that is the problem here because your birds are too young to have liver problems from a diet (they could have them from metal poisoning, chronic stress, disease, etc).

The most common cause of too peely beaks is a lack of betacarotene or eating an inferior type of protein (do you feed hemp, quinoa and/or nuts to them?).

I feed this grassy sprout stuff and it has quinoa in it and yes I feed nuts too but they don't get eaten just tiny nibbles taken out of it.

[ParrotsForLife]

Tiko the Grey, if I am correct that Tiko is the Grey, is old enough to have this type of calcium deficiency but they also respond to the increase in calcium in a matter of minutes and hours whereas with mammals it can take 24 hours or longer so even if there is a calcium deficiency the first remedial dose will correct it and then they just need the correct balance from that time forward, If you are feeding them a pellet food once a day the chances are that there would be too much calcium rather than a deficiency. This is intended to be used in addition to the information supplied by Pajarita and not to replace any of what she said.

Yeah Tiko gets a few pellets once a day mixed with her seed but she rarely gets any Calcium foods.

[Pajarita]

Tiko the Grey, if I am correct that Tiko is the Grey, is old enough to have this type of calcium deficiency but they also respond to the increase in calcium in a matter of minutes and hours whereas with mammals it can take 24 hours or longer so even if there is a calcium deficiency the first remedial dose will correct it and then they just need the correct balance from that time forward, If you are feeding them a pellet food once a day the chances are that there would be too much calcium rather than a deficiency. This is intended to be used in addition to the information supplied by Pajarita and not to replace any of what she said.

Yes, Tiko is the gray and you are 100% correct that he is old enough to have a calcium deficiency but he was talking about Mango, the young Plummie he got only recently.

Brandon, pellets have both vit D3 and calcium but whether they are enough to fulfill the calcium needs depends on how many the bird eats regularly (broccoli has a lot of calcium too and my grays LOVE it so you might want to try giving it to him)

[ParrotsForLife]

Tiko the Grey, if I am correct that Tiko is the Grey, is old enough to have this type of calcium deficiency but they also respond to the increase in calcium in a matter of minutes and hours whereas with mammals it can take 24 hours or longer so even if there is a calcium deficiency the first remedial dose will correct it and then they just need the correct balance from that time forward, If you are feeding them a pellet food once a day the chances are that there would be too much calcium rather than a deficiency. This is intended to be used in addition to the information supplied by Pajarita and not to replace any of what she said.

Yes, Tiko is the gray and you are 100% correct that he is old enough to have a calcium deficiency but he was talking about Mango, the young Plummie he got only recently.

Brandon, pellets have both vit D3 and calcium but whether they are enough to fulfill the calcium needs depends on how many the bird eats regularly (broccoli has a lot of calcium too and my grays LOVE it so you might want to try giving it to him)

Theres broccoli in the stuff I give them also Mango hasn't started eating pellets yet I give them to the Cockatiels and they all eat from the same bowl but I don't see him eat any.

[Viatrixa]

I've noticed that the need to clip a pet bird's nails depends on a lot of things. Their perching habits and how much they walk, and where, etc. Not only that but I've also noticed that several times they may appear way longer than what they actually are - due to their curvature and the way they perch.

In over half a year, we've only had to trim Simo's nails exactly once and it went perfect. One of his pedicure perches is installed between his feeding bowls, and one of his favorite swings also has a pedicure perch on it. The only thing about the perch between his food bowls is the hygiene; because of it's surface poop gets crusted into it easy and accumulates, so it has to be washed a lot. Which, mind, isn't really much of an issue. Placing a pedicure perch in a place where the bird hangs around a lot may be a good idea?

[ParrotsForLife]

They already have perches like that on them all the time