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Re: Charlie

Postby ParrotsForLife » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:37 am

liz wrote:I did not mean that you should never get one. I was just telling you what my BF is like. Since I do very little research and depend on the other members all I can tell you is what this Momma knows about her kids.

Myrtle is supper smart. I don't know if that is in the species or just Myrtle. She is like a infuriating toddler and keeps me on my toes. Are you surprised that I spelled infuriating correctly.

Very few of the bites I have receive from the Amazons actually brought blood. It is more like denting my skin and does not leave a permanent mark.

We are gonna be bringing him home tomorrow and ill post updates I have a feeling he will settle in quite well.A woman I know has mostly Red lored Amazons (don't know if I spelled that correctly lol) I think they are much calmer than other species I also joined her Facebook group and have learned a lot there too.
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Re: Charlie

Postby ParrotsForLife » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:38 am

A lot of those Amazon owners feed pellets
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Re: Charlie

Postby Pajarita » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:42 pm

A lot of people know very little about parrots and do a lot of wrong things. Amazons should get a maximum of 17% protein ONLY when they are breeding (not during breeding season but when they are either laying eggs or feeding babies) and all the pellets I know have higher protein than that.

If this bird is a male and you keep it at a lackadaisical solar spectrum and feed it pellets he is going to be biting the heck out of you once it becomes sexually mature. You are used to grays and little aviary species and have no idea of how aggressive a hormonal male amazon can be so I suggest you DNA the baby before you get it and make sure it's a female because although you think you know about amazons, I can assure you you don't.
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Re: Charlie

Postby ParrotsForLife » Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:34 pm

Pajarita wrote:A lot of people know very little about parrots and do a lot of wrong things. Amazons should get a maximum of 17% protein ONLY when they are breeding (not during breeding season but when they are either laying eggs or feeding babies) and all the pellets I know have higher protein than that.

If this bird is a male and you keep it at a lackadaisical solar spectrum and feed it pellets he is going to be biting the heck out of you once it becomes sexually mature. You are used to grays and little aviary species and have no idea of how aggressive a hormonal male amazon can be so I suggest you DNA the baby before you get it and make sure it's a female because although you think you know about amazons, I can assure you you don't.

I have never owned an Amazon so how I possibly know I never even had any experience with them only saw babies.So could you help me prepare a diet for him without needing pellets? The woman I was talking about only feeds fresh foods no pellets so I could ask what specifically she gives too and she owns red lored Amazons.He will be put to bed early as I have started going to bed earlier myself and you do feel great in the morning especially when your up early for school and I'm not tired.Also the Amazon wont be in my bedroom so he will be away from the other birds.
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Re: Charlie

Postby Bird woman » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:00 pm

Honestly Brandon amazons are the only large species I have ever turned away from my little rescue because I've always been told that they really have a tendency to turn when you least expect it. At least your learning all you can before he comes home with you :thumbsup: who am I to talk anyway I've got a LSC that wants to eat my face off. :lol: BW
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Re: Charlie

Postby ParrotsForLife » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:04 pm

Would 13% (min) protein be ok?
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Re: Charlie

Postby liz » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:11 am

My two Amazons get about the same diet as the little birds. I just cut their fruit and veggies a little larger so they can pick them up and eat them. I have a version of gloup that I give them with their fruit and veggie breakfast. Other than a few handouts that is what they eat and throw around until sundown. The evening meal is seed. They all love seed. I leave the seed tray in there room until it gets dark and take it away. Rainbow is the only one who gets up at night to eat. I keep his area the same all the time so, like a blind person, he can find his way to the food. It is funny to hear munching in the middle of the night.

Since I have two of the hot birds I am available to bounce off your ideas.
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Re: Charlie

Postby ParrotsForLife » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:20 am

liz wrote:My two Amazons get about the same diet as the little birds. I just cut their fruit and veggies a little larger so they can pick them up and eat them. I have a version of gloup that I give them with their fruit and veggie breakfast. Other than a few handouts that is what they eat and throw around until sundown. The evening meal is seed. They all love seed. I leave the seed tray in there room until it gets dark and take it away. Rainbow is the only one who gets up at night to eat. I keep his area the same all the time so, like a blind person, he can find his way to the food. It is funny to hear munching in the middle of the night.

Since I have two of the hot birds I am available to bounce off your ideas.

Do you often put the fruit and veg back in the fridge so it doesn't spoil?
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Re: Charlie

Postby Pajarita » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:32 am

I feed my amazons the same breakfast I give to all the other birds: gloop (which is about 10% protein) with raw produce (one veggie, one fruit, one leafy green or cruciform and no, I don't put them back in the fridge, they stay out all day). It's the dinner that marks the difference in protein and fat for the different species and my zons get about a heaping tablespoon of a low protein seed mix (budgie in winter, cockatiel in spring) with a couple of nuts (could be an almond and a walnut or half a Brazil nut or half a pecan, etc). I add stuff during breeding season to increase the amount and quality of protein - things like insect protein (freeze-dried mealworms), quinoa and/hemp seeds, sprouts (not the supermarket ones or the ones that they sell as sprouting mixes for parrots, I use a soaking/sprouting mix made for passerines because they are teeny tiny small and they cannot pick them out from the gloop and throw them out).
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Re: Charlie

Postby ParrotsForLife » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:32 pm

Pajarita wrote:I feed my amazons the same breakfast I give to all the other birds: gloop (which is about 10% protein) with raw produce (one veggie, one fruit, one leafy green or cruciform and no, I don't put them back in the fridge, they stay out all day). It's the dinner that marks the difference in protein and fat for the different species and my zons get about a heaping tablespoon of a low protein seed mix (budgie in winter, cockatiel in spring) with a couple of nuts (could be an almond and a walnut or half a Brazil nut or half a pecan, etc). I add stuff during breeding season to increase the amount and quality of protein - things like insect protein (freeze-dried mealworms), quinoa and/hemp seeds, sprouts (not the supermarket ones or the ones that they sell as sprouting mixes for parrots, I use a soaking/sprouting mix made for passerines because they are teeny tiny small and they cannot pick them out from the gloop and throw them out).

Would it not spoil being out all day? I would love to keep all my veg and fruit out all day for the little ones too.
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