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Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby Muddy Paws » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:05 pm

Well, Im not "new new" to the Forum. I had been on years ago, but have since decided to rejoin and become an even more active member of the Parrot Forum, now that I've got a pretty good understanding of birds (even more so than before, as I've bred Eclectus, Senegals, Macaws, Tiels and Keets - I've been breeding, handfeeding, raising and training them for about 10 years now). Due to a huge change in my life, I had to sell off all my breeders unfortunately. I havent gotten into breeding since as my life likes to change quite often, so for the last few years, I've just stuck with my Orange Winged Amazon until recently, when a locally owned petstore was going out of business and decided to sell off all these "complicated" birds and allowed them to go to whomever came with the money first. SO myself and my also bird experienced friend, took 2 of the 5 "complicated" birds. She got a Fiery Shoulder Hybrid Green Cheek Conure and I got a Sun Conure.

Anyway, I live in Alaska. I have had my breeders before and loved raising babies and making them into wonderful homes, but after having to sell my breeders, I had decided to do a much more rewarding thing - rehabilitate "large problem parrots" for a local bird rescue so they could be adopted.

Within my 5 years of working with them, I have worked with Macaws who swore like sailors and even gave you the middle finger. Cockatoo's who would yell profanities and tell themselves they were bad birds, to a Military Macaw who had a plucking/screaming problem. My approach to these birds, was attention, attention, ATTENTION! However, on their OWN terms!
My method - allow them to come out of their cages (Im a big non-believer in cages. My birds have always been calm enough to just relax outside of their cages ALL day until bedtime. This or when I went to town was the ONLY times they'd ever have to be in their cages), talk to them from a distance and do this until they started showing interest in myself. I would then start by handfeeding them treats and continue to talk to them, after a little while, they'd allow me to pet them. My method only took about 2 months. And while others feel this is a long time... To a rescue who's been abused and neglected, it is not.

Within those 2 months, they learned to quit swearing, quit plucking, and whatever other "bad habit" they had. They were able to live in a calm, stress free environment where they could become familiar with myself and themselves as-well and have a good, varied diet of pelletted food, fresh fruits and veggies and of-course snacks every once in awhile. I have done over 22 cases, some were done at the same time as others. But I am happy to report that ALL have had homes since leaving my care.

One bird who was one of my worst cases in the 4 years, was actually my first.
He is my 28 year old Orange Winged Amazon - Gort (named after the 1951 movie, The Day The Earth Stood Still - he came with the name but it fits him well!)
Gort came to me after his first owner who had handfed him and raised him passed away when Gort was 17. He then was given to the mans' daughter who HATED Gort and kept him covered in a garage for the next 6 years until he went to a foster home. In those 6 years, Gort went from a beautifully feathered handsome boy who loved to talk and sing, to a completely plucked chicken who quit talking, hated life and everything to do with it. It was depressed, completely plucked, quit talking, had sores on his feet from remaining on the same dowel rod with a cage encrusted in feces from not being cleaned for 6 years. She would only give him food and water every week or so. There is no reason why he should really be alive, but I thank God everyday he is! After being in the garage, the lady FINALLY released him to a local parrot rescue when she was moving. He then went to a foster home for a year, where he hated the people. He would bite and draw blood, scream constantly and he even cried.
I received Gort after that year had been up as the people felt like they could no longer give him what he needed.

When I saw this naked little bird, I thought he was the most gorgeous thing in the entire world. He looked up at me, and I think he knew he was home. Within 2 days, I was petting this "untouchable, blood drawing biter", and within 8 days I was holding him and 14 days, I was laying him on his back, lifting his wings and he'd even allow me to stick my fingers in his mouth. I adopted him 4 days after receiving him and we've been best buddies ever since!
He sleeps in the bed with me, walks around the house like a dog, plays with the dogs and even runs to the kitchen when he hears me cooking food. He doesnt like cages, but has taken over my dogs' wire kennel and sleeps in there when he's not out walking around the house. He is completely non-destructive, doesnt bite or anything anymore. He is on a pelletted food and even after 4 years, he still doesnt want fresh fruits and veggies most of the time, but still wants to eat pizza, coke (I realize all this is bad for him, his fosters started him on it as it was the ONLY thing he'd eat after being released to them) and whatever else I've got.

He now knows how to say "hello" and has his own way of communicating, although he doesnt say anything else, he does "talk" to me when I talk to him. He's very snuggly, LOVES to give kisses (even with tongue haha) and he even knows how to "shake" hands on command.

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Gort 28 yr old Orange Winged Amazon
His feathers have come in even more since this pic.



A local petstore was going out of business and decided to make everything, including these "complicated" birds. And the reason why I say they're "complicated" is because they need much more than being thrown in a cage and fed/watered. They need mental stimulation, human interaction and a varied diet.
Well, everyone decided to start getting birds on an impulse because these now $700 birds, were only $200. Myself and my bird-experienced friend purchased a $600 Sun Conure for $299 and a Fiery Shoulder Green Cheek Conure Hybrid that was $330, for $165. So we did get a good deal, yes. BUT our main reason for purchasing them, was so inexperienced people wouldnt get them and continue to rehome them. - Believe it or not, this happens ALOT here in Alaska.

Since bringing my Sun Conure home, I was expecting what I had always seen in the cases from the bird rescue I worked with - norrotic, screaming, biting little things that were always wanting attention and to play and be fed a bunch of things so it can forage everywhere.
Well, in some aspects this is true, however, this little Sun Conure is only about 3 months old, he cant fly and always wants attention. He is very sweet, loves to give kisses upon command, loves to be pet and with me at all times. He loves to play with little things, like soda bottle caps or a ball and within the few days that I've had him, he's quickly become attached to me. Trying to not create another Gort, I allow other people to pet him when he's with me. Gort DOES NOT like other people. He will try to bite them, he will lunge at them too (this is pretty natural though especially coming from his past and age, so we dont mind it and others respect him), but I am always allowing people to hold him or pet him so he is accustomed to others.

Trying to stick with the theme of Gorts' name, I decided to name my Sun Conure, Klaatu (again from The Day The Earth Stood Still 1951 version.)

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Klaatu hanging from his cage with one foot.
(I realize that the cage isnt what a Conure is supposed to be in. However, my birds are out 18 hours a day from their cages and he only goes in there to sleep).
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3 mo old Sun Conure
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby Eurycerus » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:59 am

Hello there! Glad to hear your parrots are doing so well.
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby marie83 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:01 pm

Welcome (back) to the forums. Sounds like you have put in a load of hard work and helped many parrots have much better lives. I wish I had the time to help so many parrots like you have :) Looking forward to hearing more from you.
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby Utoomom » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:16 pm

You are AMAZING!~~ bet you have a wealth of parrot knowledge to contribute to this forum..looking forward to hear more of your experiences with parrots...Now, YOU are what I call a true blue hands on expert...I am owned by a 2 1/2 year old toddler..LOL (U2)..so far, so good..but I might be requesting your advise in the future .. Honored to be of aquaintance to ya.. :)
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby pionus » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:49 pm

Awwwwww, Gort is [i]adorable[i]! what you are doing for those bird is amazing, you truly are a parrot lover.

I can't wait to hear more on Gort's progress. and keep us updated on klaatu. (awesome name by the way)
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby Muddy Paws » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:21 am

Gortsie is as good as he'll get. I mean, a 28 year old ham like him doesnt exactly "need" to change.

He is extremely cuddly (with me only of-course), but gives kisses (he likes to use tongue sometimes haha). He LOVES to ride in the car and go to the stores and of-course show off his handsome self!
He doesnt like other people to touch him, but he LOVES to talk and show himself off so when we go to the store, there is no shutting him up!
He in my opinion is exactly perfect the way he is, missing feathers, no talking (except for hello) and all!

Klaatu I found out wasnt fully weaned when we bought him a few days ago. Thankfully I noticed and saw that he wasnt eating his food.
Turns out, he wasnt weaned and the petstore was just trying to sell him to get rid of him. When I'd confronted the petstore they got all defensive and said "you bought him as is". I have NO problem what-so-ever with him not being fully weaned yet. I've raised birds for years and have done countless handfeedings (currently handfeeding 2 rescued Cockatiels' who's parents abandon them and the owner didnt know how to feed them), but what makes me mad is that they NEVER said a thing to us about him not being weaned, and what if I wasnt experienced with handfeeding? If I do it wrong, that could be a death sentence for the bird, or if I didnt know how to feed period, that can also be a death sentence. There was another Sun Conure with him that went to someone else before we got there. I am tirelessly trying to find them so I can let them know that their bird isnt weaned (if they havent caught on yet), and if they dont know how to handfeed, show them how to as-well as give them formula and everything needed to hanfeed and wean. But I'm not prevailing at that unfortunately.

Anyway, both my babies are doing good. Gort is getting used to Klaatu but still wants to eat him (naturally) lol

Will be posting vids of them soon if Im able with my cell.
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3 mo old Sun Conure
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby friend2parrots » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:40 am

welcome to the forum! :)

Its so wonderful what you have done for so many birds! I look forward to hearing more about your rehabilitation work on the forum. I agree with the posters above, its great to have you part of the forum, with your extensive bird rehabbing experience. Poor Gort, everything that he went through before you found him, but he's a lucky little birdie to have you now! and Klaatu too, he's in good hands now. Looking forward to hearing more about your flock :amazon: :sun:
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby ConEkatoolet » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:31 pm

It seems like I found your post at the right time!

I recently adopted a 6yo male Vos ekkie who, after losing his mate, has plucked the feathers from his chest, tops of his wings, and back. It's only been going on for 4 months, so I have high hopes of bringing him back to full plumage. I am looking for any additional advice on helping him stop his bad habit. I had him in a separate room for awhile, but he screamed and screamed and started pulling the pins out. I moved him to the bird room and he seems much happier, but is still chewing/barbing his feathers. He has always been on a proper diet and eats just as much as those little piggies should, lol, and aside from the emotional plucking he is in perfect health. He isn't hand tamed, but he has a lot of potential and comes running to the front of the cage when I am talking to him. Obviously I am working on just keeping him warm, quiet, and on a proper diet, but do you have any other tid bits of advice? Herbs I can give him? Oh yes, and he has lots of those toys for overpreeners and HAS been chewing on one of them.

Also, since you bred ekkies, what kind? I am just getting my Vossie pair- the emotional male and a female who also recently lost her mate (she should be here at the beginning of next week). Any bits of advice I can't learn from books or the internet? I have already done TONS of research and continue to do so every day and the cage I have has a divider (side by side) until they let me know they're ready, so I know how to do all that right. But people who have done it before all have different nuggets of knowledge that you can learn from :) I ask everyone the same thing who I find out breeds or has bred ekkies. And even if they don't breed, I want them both to be happy and let their feathers grow back (she has been really broody since she was split from her mate).

Btw, I think what you are doing is great :) I have fostered difficult birds in the past and I know what a challenge it is and how rewarding it can be when they learn to trust again :)
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby jinglex3 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:44 pm

Hi, I just read your post. I have just came across an Orange Winged Amazon for rehome. After talking to the owner, she stated it has basically been in it's cage for 2 years. He/she is 5years old. She says that the bird is friendly to her daughter, husband and strangers, but doesn't really like her. She said it doesn't try to bite when they clean the cage or reach in. There is something that is drawing me to this bird, site unseen. Something just feels right and I have been looking for a while. I do have bird experience. Do you have any tips for re-socializing the Orange Winged Amazon? It seems like you have a sucessful technique. Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Re: Bird Obsessed (Obviously!)

Postby Rebellious » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:53 pm

Wow, I enjoyed reading your post a lot! It made my day to know that you are adopting parrots with an otherwise ill-future. Your Amazon and Conure are adorable.
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