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The Misadventures of Lily

Postby patti » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:20 am

Hello everyone. Lily is my jenday conure and my very first bird. We have had a rocky start and i am still having some issues with her, but we have bonded well and we both love each other very much.

I knew that coming home would be a huge adjustment for her but i was not prepared nor could i have been. the drama! i read that it was good to start them on a harness young, so i bought her an aviator to try and see if she would like it. And she loved it!! She even wanted to wear it a second time the next day... but the moment we stepped outside the apartment an ill-placed shard sliced through my ankle and my achilles. so i was bleeding and screaming and hobbling back upstairs with a terrified brand new bird on my shoulder. i got her back into her cage, passed out, woke up, then called an ambulance.

So, a week into her new life when she should be the center of attention, she is suddenly getting much much less. I was home all day and did nothing but attend to her, but i also spent a lot of time moaning and immobile and she was smart enough to know something was wrong and did not know me well enough to trust me. i live alone. it was not the best welcome home for her. a few weeks later i was in a walking cast and we had bonded well but i saw signs of behavioral issues developing and/or possible health problems.

looking for a cause of her behavior...and then my concern that she wasn't eating enough... led to the second bombshell. so when i bought her i told the store she was my first bird, that i was inexperienced, and that i absolutely did not have the skills to take home an unweaned bird. i asked about this twice and was assured both times. guess what? after several trips to the vet and tests and a ton of money the official diagnosis of her diffuse problems was "not properly weaned". i had to teach her to eat it seemed, got her eating on a schedule and staying at a solid 110g which the vet said was healthy weight for her size. poor girl. or boy.

i am sure it was the stress of that moving experience that made her eat less... certainly people express stress through food. but i wish i knew to recognize this earlier. i was seriously wracking my brain trying to figure out what could be going on.

i won't bitch too much about the store...ok i will. they had assured me she was weaned so i did not suspect it nor do i have the skills to detect it or manage it. then they said they were feeding her with a bottle in the mornings when i went back and asked. and to top it off the papers i got with her don't match the band on her foot and they could not explain that nor did they care. they treated me like a crazy person for insisting on the birthdate and vaccination records for my bird. the crazy person that just spent 850 in their store. i think they could have given me better information about her. then maybe it would not have taken me so long to figure it out and she would not have had to go through that.

so that's the story of bringing home lily. i am guessing she is about 6 months give or take because she started molting in late sept and she is now looking very dapper with her new orange and yellow feathers where there used to be green, and now solid green on her back now instead of the spotty feathers she had. all her new feathers are well formed with no spots, so i am happy about that and consider it a sign she has been getting good nutrition. if anyone is so inclined, i could use some help devising and introducing the best diet for her without losing her current eating routine (she needs routines).

so that's lily. beautiful, wonderful, shiny, adorable perfect lily. :sun:
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Wolf » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:58 am

Rocky start for certain. The improper weaning of birds is something that we encounter a lot so that doesn't surprise me at all, although it taking that many trips to the vet for this diagnosis does. This, in my opinion, should have been one of the first things to have suspected. So I don't think that you got fair service from either pet store or vet.
Let us know what you are feeding your bird and we will be glad to help you with this.
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Pajarita » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:51 pm

I agree with Wolf but it doesn't surprise me as vets don't really learn anything about diet, weaning, behaviors or anything that is not directly related to physiology, pathogens, conditions, etc. all medical stuff. You should have come here sooner, we could have told you ;)

But, thankfully, it's now water under the bridge and, hopefully, it has no permanent damage - some birds develop an eating disorder from something like this so the sooner you put her on a good diet, the better!
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby patti » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:44 pm

Thanks... the vet's approach was to rule out physical problems first and i was happy with that, because with birds so good at hiding illness and me so inexperienced, it was nice to know that she was healthy from someone who knows what they are talking about. especially since i could not necessarily trust the store.

she is doing great and a very busy beaver.... i am a professor and work at home a lot. she does all my grading for me. and she is very easy to care for now... the only thing i was not prepared for was how loud her screams would be when she is on my shoulder. i can really feel the hearing loss happening, bit by bit, every time she does it. whoa!

i have learned a lot about nutrition from scrolling these boards, and pajarita i found a post from you regarding some birdie mush and i am going to try those soon.
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Wolf » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:44 pm

The sooner the better for you and your bird as a good diet is really very important and in birds actually affects many more areas than we as humans would normally expect. Another area that you should really take the time to research thoroughly is photoperiodism as it not only affects reproduction, it also has striking effects on behavior in general.
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Lizz » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:58 pm

LOL I can hear you now trying to explain: but my parrot ate your homework.
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Pajarita » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:52 am

Good job on the research and vet work. And yes, they can scream REAL LOUD, can't they? But they are not the worst -not in terms of loudness, anyway. My Lesser Sulfur screamed for the first time while been perched on my shoulder the other day and it was so loud that I could actually feel the vibrations of the sound waves inside my head! :shock:
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Lizz » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:05 am

Amazons too. Thanks to Myrtle I have lost some hearing in my left ear.

Pajarita you are a cockatoo but have no info with your posts. Have mercy on an old lady with a bad memory.
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Pajarita » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:20 am

What do you mean by no info? My putting a list of all the birds I have on my signature?
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Re: The Misadventures of Lily

Postby Lizz » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:55 pm

More stuff. I can't remember where you are and you have 0 birds.

I wish everyone would add their general location. It is also very hard to remember who is working with a second or third language.

Every one knows that English is my only and I can't spell worth a darn.
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