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New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Phoenix15 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:59 pm

Hi all,

We rehomed a what we are told 2yr old female Jenday Conure last Wednesday (5 full days now)
She is quiet loud in and out the cage, but once left in the cage will settle fast. She will screech when you enter the room and she sees you. We are trying not to let her out until she is quite. When she's out she will go to hubby but if I'm too close or the kids are she will bite him. She will also fly to me and get a scratch then she's off to hubby again and once again the biting starts. If I'm not around she seems a lot calmer with hubby. I work from home so spend time with her during the day and she will come to me, have a few scratches, cuddles, wonders about on my shoulder etc not had any aggressive behaviour yet. But then hubby comes in from work and she's not interested in me just seems very protective of hubby but aggressive at the same time. We understand she's had a change in people and environment and needs time to settle. Any help in what we can do to help her feel more at home. Thanks for taking the time to read :)
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Michael Reynolds » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:35 pm

Hello and welcome. What a lovely bird and they are so much like the characters of the sun conure. yes the way they call can be loud but this is a natural call and the jenday is a bird that needs to have company and will call out for the attention. Five days is not long for one of these magnificent bird to settle and get used to a routine so have patients on this side and try to change its natural call to a quiet call or word by repeating it each time the bird calls, Biting and aggression will also settle with keeping the bird occupied so its time to start training and rewarding, I took on a sun conure by the third day I can handle him no attempt to bite now and he was in an aviary the key is Patients Trust and understanding but it is far easy for me to say as i have been training birds for a long time. the most important is understanding your bird and its ways
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Phoenix15 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:08 pm

Thanks for your reply. We fully understand 5 days is nowhere near enough for her to settle into new surroundings. Any tips to stop the biting apart from training as she comes out the cage to us with the step up command and we can put her back into the cage with out a real issue. Its just the biting hubby when theres two of us or the kids in the same room?
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby liz » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:27 pm

Welcome to the forum.
Your husband is first person and you are second person. You have no value unless first person is not there.
The same thing goes with Rambo and Myrtle. They are both mine but for Rambo my daughter is first person and he does not come to me unless she is not home. Myrtle claims me as first person and will not go to Rachel unless I am not home.
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Wolf » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:00 pm

The fact hat she nips/ bites your hubby when you or your children get too close is an indicator that your hubby is her number1 human, sort of like her mate and so she is trying to herd him away from you and thus protect him from the advances of a possible rival(you). the facts of this still being breeding season and her age suggest that she is also going through puberty and becoming an adult bird with this being her first breeding season as an adult.
Since you are still able to interact with her when your hubby is not present does indicate that she does accept you as a member of her flock. So if you continue to work with and interact with her when he is not present you should be able to improve the flock dynamics so that the biting may cease to occur.
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Phoenix15 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:44 am

Thank you both for your replies.

Would it be best for me to stay away from hubby whilst hes with Fifi? I will continue to work with her during the day whilst hubby is at work.

Now you mention breeding season she has been doing this weird dance/ shuffle down our arms onto out hands, then kind of spreads her legs a little each side of our wrists and fluffs up while trying to get lower. She also nibbles softly at our skin. Happens to hubby more than me. We do discourage this behaviour. Is that right?
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Wolf » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:16 am

It does not sound like a mating dance to me, but I would not discourage it even if it were. The gentle nibbling is just her preening you, I think.
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Phoenix15 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:57 am

Thanks so much ive spent a good hour with fifi today, just her and I. Shes had a wonder and fly about, also hidden some food for her around the room, which she found. I have managed to catch her on video which I'll try to add now so you can see what she does. I cant seem to attach a video :(
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Pajarita » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:58 am

Thank you for adopting this bird instead of buying a baby from a breeder. If everybody did that, we would not have rescues full of homeless birds and breeders still producing more birds into an already saturated market. Kudos to you for that!

The information you received is correct. She has chosen your husband as her human but this doesn't mean this preference will remain forever or that you cannot have a good relationship with her even if it does.

One word of caution, the behavior you see now is the honeymoon and not the behavior you will see in a couple more months or so. Birds are always on their best behavior when they are in an unfamiliar environment and with strange people. It's a typical prey defense mechanism. But this will change so be prepared for it and don't be discouraged thinking that she is regressing, she is not, the change is normal.

Screaming: I don't agree with the common tenet of waiting until the bird has shut up to do what the bird wants (to come out of her cage). Did you ignore your babies cries or did you pick them up to comfort them? Well, it's pretty much the same thing. A baby cries when he needs or wants something because it's the only way it has of communicating that something is wrong and that is also what parrots do when they scream. Parrots were not created by nature to live in a cage without their flock around them so they scream for company and freedom because it's the only way they have of communicating this need. A bird that is kept at a good and steady routine (gives them a sense of control over their own lives which, in turn, improves their self-esteem), is under a strict solar schedule (to avoid his becoming overly-hormonal and physically uncomfortable), has a good diet, good quality full spectrum lights during the day (good for their endocrine system and wellbeing), is allowed out of its cage for 4 hours a day and has one-on-one interaction with its humans for, at least, 1 hour a day will not scream. I have a jenday and a sun conure and neither one screams so although their vocalizations are loud and a bit shrill, they don't do them all the time as other people claim.
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Re: New to the forum - New Jenday - Need help please

Postby Phoenix15 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:35 am

https://youtu.be/xTRo0uDFJFA

This is what shes doing alot lately
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