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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Wolf » Thu May 07, 2015 11:33 pm

Sometimes, a parrot will learn that no one is listening to them when they try to let them know that it does not want things done to it, so it quits trying to let humans know that it wants them to stop , but instead of letting them know through body language it just bites. Normally a parrot will try to communicate its dislike of a thing by giving us signals by means of body language and biting is a last resort defense. When a parrot learns that it can not tell humans no, through their body language, they may quit giving us the warning signals and go directly to biting. It sounds like this may have happened to this one. Given time and patience you can teach them that you are listening to them and they will eventually start giving the signals again.
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Maryellen » Fri May 08, 2015 8:43 am

Ah ok now i get it, so the previous home didnt listen to his body language so he but as a last resort... Gotcha!! That makes sense..
Like he turns his head for me to pet him thru the cage bars and when i go to pet him he tries to bite me, then turns his head again to me to pet him and lets me pet his head thru the bars..
So maybe he wanted to go back to his perch and i missed his body language so he bit me when i lowered my arm instead of raising it to the perch??

I have a video of him on my arm ladt week on YouTube you can see if you want just email me and il email you the link mebully112@aol.com
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Pajarita » Fri May 08, 2015 10:03 am

Well, this could be the reason or it might not be. It might be that he does it simply because of his impaired vision (blind animals don't like to be touched unless they know FOR A FACT that you can be trusted 100%), it could be that he does it because he hasn't been handled enough lately (they get despondent), it could be that he needs more enrichment (an almost blind bird that is not allowed to come out or interact with anybody has nothing to do).

If I may ask, why are you not letting him out of his cage? I doubt he will attack you or fly around with impaired vision and he would feel much better if he could come out for, at the very least, a couple of hours a day, maybe climb on a branch attached to the outside of the cage. A cage is a bird jail cell and even hardcore criminals get time out of theirs. I don't meant to make you feel bad about it, I realize this is 'standard protocol', but this bird is handicapped and there is nothing 'standard' about a handicapped animal so I am just giving you my perspective. I know that you said 'solid trust' but you need to give trust to receive it and keeping him physically isolated with nothing to do in his cage is not going to make him trust you any faster. It might even backfire... Mind you, I am not talking allowing him on your shoulder or even asking him to step up to your hand, I am talking about just a bit of freedom, a change of perspective, something different to do...
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Maryellen » Fri May 08, 2015 12:51 pm

I wont be able to catch him ... I can wheel his cage in the bedroom and let him out when i am home from work to be with him but to get him back in the cage i will need to figure a way to get him back in.. I have shreddable toys in there now that he shreds too .
I can only let him out when i am home to watch him so he doesn't get hurt.
I dont know much about the previous home either..

So if i let him out that might work better?
I sit with him every night for a few hours after i get home from work and talk and pet him. I have him in the living room with my cockatiel in her cage across from him too .a radio is always on also.
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Maryellen » Fri May 08, 2015 4:39 pm

I rolled his cage in one of the bedrooms and used a perch to have him come out. He is now on top of his cage and i have toys and a rope hooked up outside with two perches outside for him. I am sitting with him and starting over. I cant leave him loose in the house due to the dogs so we will roll into a different room and shut the door for security
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Wolf » Sat May 09, 2015 6:02 am

I can't let my birds out unless I am there to watch over them either, because of our dogs and cats.
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Pajarita » Sat May 09, 2015 9:08 am

There you go! When there is a will, there is a way - and you found one that would allow him to be out without any danger to himself! Kudos to you! :thumbsup: Now, a bird with impaired vision is easy to catch because, unless he is in a panic, he won't be flying all over the place and, most likely, will actually like coming to you because although animals do not dwell on their handicaps, they do know they are more vulnerable than others and that 'good' humans protect them. But, please, please, please, be very careful with the dogs because, not been able to see well, he is a sitting duck and even a dog that doesn't mean harm and only wants to play can end up causing irreparable harm to a little bird. I would suggest you device some type of a buffer zone so the dogs cannot zoom into the room between your legs - a baby gate so they can still see and hear everything but would be contained in a room (I use the kitchen) is ideal.
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Maryellen » Sat May 09, 2015 10:39 am

I let him out in the bedroom with the door shut. Two of my dogs are safe as they hang with my chickens but my male dog is super high prey drive and will go after critters.
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Wolf » Sat May 09, 2015 10:55 am

So many people have made the mistake of assuming that their parrots are safe with their dog, I would hate for you to end up being one of them. I know that you believe yours are safe and I like to think that mine are as well, so the only thing I can or will say is that parrots are prey and dogs are predators and no amount of training will ever alter that.
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Re: New here from Northern New Jersey

Postby Maryellen » Sat May 09, 2015 5:51 pm

Oh dont worry , just because two of them are good with the chickens doesn't mean squat. I dont let the inside birds loose unless they are in a closed door bedroom with me. I am not that stupid to take that type of a chance
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