Maryellen wrote:How is the food not good? It is for parrots at
http://www.mysafebirdstore.com its no salt no sugar no additives.... He wont eat the roudybush California blend pellets he just kicks them out of the dish.
On the website he gets the Madagascar blend, bountiful harvest blend, dr Harvey's seedless blend as treats, golden gourmet large hookbill , golden gourmet taste of Central America, avi cakes as a treat, spinach, baby greens, peas, green beans, bananas, apples, oranges,grapes. Most of the food he tosses out or takes one bite then tosses. The carrots and other fruits that have natural sugar are given very sparingly.
The rescue gave me the list of what he ate so i am buying what they said to use.
I never got any paperwork on his liver or any vet paperwork. I got his papers from the pet store he was bought from 23 years ago and the one vet bill from23 years ago that was it.
What am i supposed to feed him if all the food i was told to feed isnt goid?
The bird store food is no salt no chemicals.. You can go on their website and see the food .
Well, these are the ingredients for the Bountiful Harvest blend I found online (I've highlighted in red the iffy ones):
Ground corn, hulled canary grass seed, cranberries, dark raisins, hulled oats, hulled white proso millet, red millet, sweet potatoes, walnuts,
soybean meal, wheat flour,
sugar, gelatin, propylene glycol, glycerine, canola oil, dicalcium phosphate, ground limestone, salt, DL-methionine (an amino acid), citric acid, mixed tocopherols (a preservative), choline chloride, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, ascorbic acid, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), niacin supplement, calcium dipantothenate, riboflavin supplement, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, manganese oxide, zinc oxide, folic acid, biotin, cupric sulfate, vitamin B12 supplement,
sodium selenite.These are for the Madagascar blend:
Jumbo white pumpkin seed, banana chips, shelled non-roasted Brazil nuts, roasted peanuts, roasted cashews, roasted almonds,
papaya, pineapple, cranberries, flaked unsweetened coconut, roasted corn,
roasted soybeans, pepitas, granola made with rolled oats, whole wheat,
brown sugar, canola oil, natural coconut, sweet dairy whey, oat flour, roasted almonds and honey,
mango, shelled non-roasted filberts, sunflower kernels, cooked dehydrated beans and peas, grapes,
cherries, whole sweet corn, whole cinnamon, roasted chickpeas, sweet red and green peppers, sterile hemp seed, spinach, safflower seed, hulled oats, carrots,
tomatoes, apricots, apples, walnuts and pecans, peaches, pine nuts,
freeze-dried cane molasses, natural orange, lemon and cinnamon extracts, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product, dried lactobacillus fermentum fermentation product, dried enterococcus faecium fermentation product, and dried bifidobacterium longum fermentation product.
The reason for the red on the fruits is that some NEED to be organic and none should be treated with sulfites. And, you do realize the contradiction of not feeding a lot of fruit (which is part of a parrot's natural diet) because of the supposedly too high fructose content (a content that is balanced out by the huge amount of water and fiber in fruit) but feeding food that actually has sugar which is processed, concentrated and not part of a bird's natural diet, right?
Spinach is a no-no, way too high in oxalates, much, much, much better to give them kale and broccoli (super excellent nutrition and moderate oxalates).
Now, please understand that I am not putting down A helping wing in ANY way, I like Jeanne and think she is doing a fabulous job with her rescue but rescues are not normally known for giving their birds the best diet and there are several reasons for that: money, time, labor, new birds all the time that are used to different diets, etc so they do the best they can.
If you cannot get copies of the bloodwork results, ask Jeanne what is the name of the vet that checked him up and contact the vet directly to get them because, I am 99.99% sure that this bird has or had high cholesterol (it's the only way he would have ended up with deposits in his eyes -I had two birds like him and I have an older amazon -ex breeder- that is beginning to get one) and, if I am right, he also has liver issues (bile acids test is the ONLY test that would tell you this) and, if he does, he would require a special diet and supplements for the rest of his life. I know you were told his liver is 'fine' but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do NOT take anybody's word when it comes to health issues (not mine, not Jeanne's, not even an avian vet's -I had a bird that died because I took the best and oldest avian vet's word that he was fine). Get proof in black and white and do your own research.
Wolf is correct, you don't need to feed throughout the day. The 'give raw produce one hour before the gloop' is the best way but you can also put everything out together (that's the way I do it in the birdroom), it takes longer to get them used to eating a large variety of produce when you do but it still works in the long term.
by Maryellen » Wed May 13, 2015 8:13 am 
