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[Wolf]

If you can get four or five different whole grains you could cook then until they are soft on the outside and still hard inside and give Sammy some of them after they cool down to room temperature in addition to his fruits and vegetables, a couple of nuts per day would help too if he will eat them.
I am sorry, I didn't think that you had enough posts, that was my mistake and I do apologise for that. I know that you are doing the best that you can and that Sammy has not been with you for more than just a few days. I was concerned about his feather condition and was thinking that it was probably due to having been fed a poor diet by his owner and not by you. This is an awkward situation to work with since you are just babysitting him and only for a couple of weeks. Here is what I feed my birds. I feed a cooked mixture of whole grains ( four to five different ones, depending on what I can get) this is about 40 % then I add blanched vegetables which is normally carrots, green peas, yellow corn, green beans and broccoli, it is also about 40% of the total amount of this food then the last 20% is fully cooked white beans, and lentils. I also give a fresh raw fruit, vegetable and a leafy green. these are for breakfast and for all day eating. then for dinner I give a seed mix and one or two tree nuts ,such as almonds or pistachios, or walnuts. this gives the birds a good variety of natural vitamins and minerals as well as enough fats and protein to utilize the vitamins and minerals as well as enough for the body to repair itself as it should. All food is served at room temperature or slightly cooler.
I wonder about his cage at home, if it is a powder coated cage ( painted ) is the paint chipped or does the cage have any rusty spots that a bird could chew on. If id does have rust spots or bare metal then heavy metal poisoning could be the cause of Juliet's passing. Heavy metal poisoning also attacks the liver and does so at a much faster rate than liver disease from an all seed diet. I also would consider cutting back on the kale as it is very high in iron the same with spinach and it may contribute to him having too much iron and that can be as bad as not enough.
To be honest my very first thought was poor diet, but I would also look at his home cage because heavy metal poisoning is also a possibility. That is the extent of what I have been thinking. I wish that there were more that I could do other than to make these suggestions. I also wish that I knew far more than I do about these wonderful birds. And I wish that I knew how to help you to convince Sammy's owner to give him a better diet.

[Crazy4parrots]

If you can get four or five different whole grains you could cook then until they are soft on the outside and still hard inside and give Sammy some of them after they cool down to room temperature in addition to his fruits and vegetables, a couple of nuts per day would help too if he will eat them.
I am sorry, I didn't think that you had enough posts, that was my mistake and I do apologise for that. I know that you are doing the best that you can and that Sammy has not been with you for more than just a few days. I was concerned about his feather condition and was thinking that it was probably due to having been fed a poor diet by his owner and not by you. This is an awkward situation to work with since you are just babysitting him and only for a couple of weeks. Here is what I feed my birds. I feed a cooked mixture of whole grains ( four to five different ones, depending on what I can get) this is about 40 % then I add blanched vegetables which is normally carrots, green peas, yellow corn, green beans and broccoli, it is also about 40% of the total amount of this food then the last 20% is fully cooked white beans, and lentils. I also give a fresh raw fruit, vegetable and a leafy green. these are for breakfast and for all day eating. then for dinner I give a seed mix and one or two tree nuts ,such as almonds or pistachios, or walnuts. this gives the birds a good variety of natural vitamins and minerals as well as enough fats and protein to utilize the vitamins and minerals as well as enough for the body to repair itself as it should. All food is served at room temperature or slightly cooler.
I wonder about his cage at home, if it is a powder coated cage ( painted ) is the paint chipped or does the cage have any rusty spots that a bird could chew on. If id does have rust spots or bare metal then heavy metal poisoning could be the cause of Juliet's passing. Heavy metal poisoning also attacks the liver and does so at a much faster rate than liver disease from an all seed diet. I also would consider cutting back on the kale as it is very high in iron the same with spinach and it may contribute to him having too much iron and that can be as bad as not enough.
To be honest my very first thought was poor diet, but I would also look at his home cage because heavy metal poisoning is also a possibility. That is the extent of what I have been thinking. I wish that there were more that I could do other than to make these suggestions. I also wish that I knew far more than I do about these wonderful birds. And I wish that I knew how to help you to convince Sammy's owner to give him a better diet.

Juliet had another cage different from Sammy's cage her cage was new, i also give them egg...
Its ok Wolf no worries!
I bought an antidiahrreic today for Sammy! It also helps to protect the GI tract and helps against any infection in the GI track.. I gave an antibiotic yesterday night to Sammy and today some poops look better! less sparced and more formed.

[Crazy4parrots]

yesterday night i gave him Guava

this is his poop yesterday night before i gave him the antibiotic...
http://tinypic.com/r/2nbsy14/9
after seeing this i took the picture and changed & cleaned the tray, then proceeded to give the antibiotic. I did talked to an avian vet and since i'm a vet student she said its time for you to put theory in practice if you want to be an avian vet i told her yes i want to, after seeing the videos and me explaining to her and seeing the poop pictures she said it was good that i gave him the antibiotics she told me to administer for 7 days & if it doesnt work then to take Sammy with her. Its good the fact that he is improving! Its a short time for antibiotics to work but who knows! They usually take around 14-24 hrs to kick in, i gave it to him at 7 pm yesterday and its 5.49 pm right now.

Now this is his poop today after eating Papaya this morning!
http://tinypic.com/r/2w3vp82/9
http://tinypic.com/r/69ds87/9

[Crazy4parrots]

Does this work http://tinypic.com/r/25ssbib/9 i have this one and a bag of red beans! Thats all its very hard to get beans in my country.

[Crazy4parrots]

Owner told me today that Sammy has been flicking his wings since 1 year ago and she thought it was mites, i think Pajarita is right and the flicking wings is related to a poor diet...added to that he have an infection.

[Pajarita]

I have to tell you, I don't like his poop at all. I don't like the color, I don't like the consistency and I don't like the fact that there are hardly any urates in it. What antidiarrheal are you giving him? Because, as far as I know, there aren't any that are good for birds. And what antibiotic? Couldn't this avian vet you talked to do a fecal on his poop just to make sure this is the problem?

Please, please, please, keep these birds under strict quarantine! Wash your hands and change your clothes before you touch your bird because there could be something going on with all this lady's birds aside from bad diet. I mean, we have one sick, one dead, one without feathers... too many birds with problems, you know what I mean?

If I were you, I would change their diet and talk the owner into continuing it but I would also give them a good vitamin/mineral supplement as well as liver and kidney cleanser/tonic.

[Wolf]

Red beans and lima beans are the worst beans for a parrot due to the toxins in them. All beans and many legumes have this toxin which is supposed to be destroyed by fully cooking them. I really need to tattoo the name of this toxin on my brain as I have a hard time remembering what it is.
I don't recognize the type of beans in the picture so I can't say much about them. What kind of beans are they?
I don't like the color of these poops but that may have to do with the color of the fruits in his diet. Some of the amount of urine is also due to the amount of water in fruit.
As already noted, I think that most of his issues are due to a poor diet, of course an infection does not help either.

[Pajarita]

Hemagglutinin - but you can also call it kidney bean toxin.

[Crazy4parrots]

I have to tell you, I don't like his poop at all. I don't like the color, I don't like the consistency and I don't like the fact that there are hardly any urates in it. What antidiarrheal are you giving him? Because, as far as I know, there aren't any that are good for birds. And what antibiotic? Couldn't this avian vet you talked to do a fecal on his poop just to make sure this is the problem?

Please, please, please, keep these birds under strict quarantine! Wash your hands and change your clothes before you touch your bird because there could be something going on with all this lady's birds aside from bad diet. I mean, we have one sick, one dead, one without feathers... too many birds with problems, you know what I mean?

If I were you, I would change their diet and talk the owner into continuing it but I would also give them a good vitamin/mineral supplement as well as liver and kidney cleanser/tonic.

Yes i know what you meant when Juliet died i changed clothes, washed my hands 3-4 times then showered all before i dared to touch Baylee! I ALWAYS use antibacterial gel for my hands after i touch Sammy and before touching Baylee.
Im using this Sulfametoxazole 100 mg with Trimetoprim 20 mg its from Nido called Antidiarrheic 12-14 drops in water.
I already told her that im changing their diet the only birds of her that i took in were Juliet & Sammy! Tony who was the other one without feathers died 2 weeks ago...

This is Sammy's poop today i think it looks better with more form http://i68.tinypic.com/npfjpe.jpg
Wolf they are Garbanzos... like i said i give them papaya, guava,watermelon,cantaloupe, banana, apple, orange, broccoli, green bell pepper, red bell pepper, kale, quinoa, raisins (as treats only) arucula, carrots, pinenuts, crushed wheat, brown rice plus i give Baylee seeds and Sammy im beginning to give him some sunflower seeds (as a treat and for fat content)... i didnt named it all before because it was around 1 am and couldnt think straight.
For antibiotic enrofloxacine its what Baylee's vet recommended for birds. As we dont have any antibiotic for birds. For specific things yes but there isnt one for birds like enrofloxacine that is amplium spectrum. Anti fungal & antibacterial.

[Pajarita]

Yes, that antibiotic is what we call "Bird sulfa", you can get it without a prescription so pigeon and canary fanciers get it all the time but, if I were you, I would ask your avian vet teacher to get you some liquid enrofloxacin (Baytril) and put it in his beak. It's much more effective than the sulfa.

The poop does look better, thankfully!

Don't put kale or brown rice in the mix for Sammy. Brown rice is too high in arsenic and kale, although very nutritious , is super high in sorbitol, an indigestible sugar that causes diarrhea (I can't eat it) and given the fact that he had that real bad looking poop for so long and possibly an infection, I would give him all super safe stuff - at least, until he is all better. Quinoa is good, it's one of the two seeds that has complete protein. Make sure the peppers, apple and carrots are organic (they are on the 12 dirtiest list). See if you can get him to eat baked sweet potatoes, they are really nutritious!