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hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby ladydana » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:46 am

hi everyone ! i am from hong kong. maybe my english is not very well. but i want to learn more about parrot so i join here :) nice to meet u all ! in hong kong, doesnt have many knowledge about parrots. i need to read books and internet to learn more from Taiwan. cause parrot have a long life, i considered for about 7 month.and i finally get a jardines parrots :senegal: :meyers:

he is 4 months baby still feeding 1 times liquids and learning to eat . comes only 6 days. but he already know wheres the cage door is , and call me to open it. he will stand on the top of the cage :0. and he enjoy to play his toys much . i put my hand near him and call him to step up , he really step up. but he will go to my shoulder. although he sleep on my shoulder, i am not so sure is he so nervous so he walk onto my shoulder then i give him back to his top of the cage. i hope he will loves this family :hatched: :hatched:

i always want to ask one question . is that your parrot learn how to go to poo ?everytime i will put my parrot to go his poo poo corner , and call him to poo out , and he really did :P but i need bring him to go everytime . will it too fast to need a 4 month old little baby bird to do it ? thank you so much !!!

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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby liz » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:30 am

Welcome to the forum.
Your English is very good. English is all I know so you are way ahead of me.
I know you are already in love with your baby and want to do the best for him.
A parrot can be potty poo trained to poo only where you want him to. The problem is that they are not designed to hold their poo until they get to the right place. It can cause physical problems and damage the bird.
A better idea is for you to learn it's poo habits. Many have learned and have some control of where they poo. This should be something you learn. It could be really harmful for you to teach him.
Just like a child you can pick up on it. Feeding him the same kind of food at the same time of day you will know about when he is going to do it. Just make sure he is perched when you think it is time. Please do no teach him to hold it and poo when you want.
If you feed vegetable, fruit and gloop in the morning and seed in the evening you will learn his body schedule.
I am just happy that mine don't poo while they are flying.
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Wolf » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:10 am

I know that parrots are messy and that they throw food all over and that they go potty all over the place, but training them to poop where you want them to is very bad for the parrot. Potty training them can cause them to hold their poo in and they can become impacted or have cloacal prolapse, this would require a very expensive surgery to try to save their life and the surgery could also kill them. Please do not do this with your precious new friend. It may be bothersome to always have to clean their poop up, but it is much safer for the bird. They will usually need to poop every 15 to 20 minutes.
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Chantilly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:31 am

Hello Ladydana!
Your English is really good :D
I agree with what Wolf and Liz said about not training your new bird to poo when you want, and instead just taking it to a perch to let it poo every 15-20 minutes.
Your parrot is so cute!!! :thumbsup:
And anthough she be little, she is fierce ~Shakespeare
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Wolf » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:14 am

I hate to tell you, Chantilly, but that is one of the many ways to potty train your bird. Unfortunately for the bird potty training it is harder to not do than it is to do. If you take it to the same place to poop, it will very often think that you want it to poop there and will hold it until it can go in that spot. Then if that place is not in its cage and you are going to be gone and must put the bird in its cage while you are gone then it will hold it in as long as it can so it can go potty in the place you showed it to go to. Conversely if the place is in the cage and it can't get to the cage it will hold it again until it can go in the cage. I find that it is best to keep something to clean it up with me at all times and to not say anything or react to their pooping in any manner other than to just quietly clean it up and continue with what we were doing when it pooped.
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Postby Pajarita » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:56 am

Wolf is correct. There was a member that did this thinking it would not harm the bird and the bird ended up refusing to poop anywhere but on that particular paper in that particular room. It's never a good idea to try to change in any way the way they evacuate. Their metabolism is way too fast for any type of training to be safe so they will always end up 'holding' it.
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Wolf » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:47 pm

There are so many things that show up in pictures and so much related to what is shown that doesn't show up. This picture is a very good example of this. your bird has a lot of black showing in his feathers but this could be simply due to having just recently getting a bath as his body shows that he is not fully dry. Still with this much black showing along with his feathers showing signs of over preening, I am certain that some of the black is due to stress and possibly a vitamin deficiency. The reasons for the stress don't sow in the pictures nor does his diet.

Given that you have just gotten him stress is going to happen simply because moving to a new home is one of the most stressful things that can happen to a parrot. But if you have only had him for a week and taking his feather condition into account, I wonder what his life was like where you got him from. These things lead me to believe that it was lacking and not as good as it should have been. But these were things beyond your control and have nothing to do with you and I am sure that he will do much better in your care.

Still with seeing these things in the pictures could you tell us more about his diet and eating habits as well as more about how much time he gets to spend out of his cage and playing and sitting on you?
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Pajarita » Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:00 am

This seems to be a black-winged Jardine, Wolf, that's why his wings are so black. In my experience (very limited, I only had a single Lesser Jardine), when jardines have stress bars, it shows as a 'scalloped' pattern on the chest (black scallops on green background).
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Wolf » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:36 pm

OK, never seen one before and was concerned
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Re: hi there i am dana , new from hong kong !

Postby Chantilly » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:38 am

Wolf wrote:I hate to tell you, Chantilly, but that is one of the many ways to potty train your bird. Unfortunately for the bird potty training it is harder to not do than it is to do. If you take it to the same place to poop, it will very often think that you want it to poop there and will hold it until it can go in that spot. Then if that place is not in its cage and you are going to be gone and must put the bird in its cage while you are gone then it will hold it in as long as it can so it can go potty in the place you showed it to go to. Conversely if the place is in the cage and it can't get to the cage it will hold it again until it can go in the cage. I find that it is best to keep something to clean it up with me at all times and to not say anything or react to their pooping in any manner other than to just quietly clean it up and continue with what we were doing when it pooped.

Hmm, ok, haha I will tell you Shrek definately isnt poty trained, yup it goes EVERYWHERE. :rainbow:
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