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Hello from the UK.

Postby Razzy » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:07 am

Hi there. :)

I am currently sat at work getting very excited about the fact I collect my first GCC tonight. :) :gcc:

I have previously worked with Conures, African Greys, Hahns, Umbrella Cockatoos and Caiques however this will be my first parrot that I own.

I was pretty certain that I wanted a just weaned bird to have from a young age however being that this is my first bird I decided against that after reading about the stages they go through and how much they can change... therefore I got in touch with a rescue and I am off to meet and hopefully take home a little boy later today. He's 1.5 years old and his previous owners got a puppy and decided they no longer had time for the little guy. He is apparently very cuddly and loving! So hopefully he will like me and be happy to come home with me. :)

I will be sure to post pictures once he's home and settled!

:gcc: :thumbsup:
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby liz » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:35 am

Welcome to the forum.
Thank you for getting your bird from a rescue instead of breeder or pet shop.
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Wolf » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:28 pm

Hi and welcome to the forum. Thank you for deciding to adopt a bird instead of buying a bird from either a breeder or a pet shop. There are so many unwanted birds out there that just want and need a good home. Some of them are victims of abuse and/or neglect, some of them are there simply because an inexperienced person got a baby bird and did not know about them growing up, what to expect or how to deal with the birds normal life changes at this time. Many ore there because people just did not know how much effort it can take to train and develop a good relationship with a bird.

Because of the things that they have been through some of them have been scarred mentally, emotionally and/ or physically and may have developed some behavioral issues and some have made it through without any real issues, but most of them that have developed problem only require some time in a loving home to heal, some require a little more but by and large most of them just need a chance and will amaze you with their antics, their wit and charm as well as with their intelligence. One of the biggest differences is that buying a baby bird is a gamble as you really have no idea what it will be like when it matures, but that is usually not the case with an older bird as it has already gone through puberty and its changes in personality so you have a much better chance of what you see is what you get with these older birds. I would only suggest that you remain open to allowing the bird to choose you regardless of its species, instead of you choosing it as that will give you the most enjoyable relationship and usually a better and deeper bond with the bird.

Wishing you and hopefully your new bird well and all the best.
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Razzy » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:49 am

Thank you both for taking the time to reply.

He's home and seems quite content at the moment. He's happy to be climbing all over your shoulders & head. The only thing I have noticed so far is he is very reluctant to step up unless he feels this is the only option. Coming out of his cage he would rather run around then step up... I've been leaving his cage open after noticing this so I don't stress him out too much. Trying to put him back in is a bit of a task. :lol:

Is anyone able to give some insight to this or things I could do to work on it? :) He let me scratch his head yesterday with very slow movements and he then came running over for more but the minute he realised it was a hand doing it he ran off.

Here's some (pretty rubbish) pictures of the little guy:
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:gcc:
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Razzy » Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:59 am

One more picture that's a bit better. He's not an easy one to get a picture of! After this he stole the Esc key off my keyboard and stashed it in his cage. :lol:
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby liz » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:38 am

Did we forget to tell you they are thieves?

Myrtle had an awful history. Her progress is in "Rambo & Myrtle". She has become a free spirit or a flying maniac. She learned to open jewelry draws to find pretty things to play with. She has learned to unzip purses to find new play things. There is a thread in here of "what has your bird destroyed?". They are like flying two year old kids and into everything even though they mentally can go to equivalent of five or six year olds.

Rambo is my 31 year old equivalent to a 5 year old and though he is a pedestrian he can still find things to get into. The difference is that, even though Myrtle seems to understand every word I say, Rambo will disagree and defend his idea of what he can do. Yes, actual conversations using words that a 5 year old can understand and say.

Most of my household is still asleep. This is my time of the morning to catch up on what happened yesterday but Rambo just walked in and climbed my bedspread and asked "are you up?"

You are about to enter a new "wonderland". Good luck and don't hesitate to ask questions
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Razzy » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:19 am

Liz, your house sounds like lots of fun! :lol:

I have a funny feeling I am walking into a new addiction. He's so sweet and I adore the little mite already. I want to take things slow with him to ensure he trusts me and he knows nothing is going to hurt him! I don't know his history fully so it's a case of seeing how he reacts to things. He was on my shoulder yesterday playing with my hair and my mum tried to say hello and he very much disliked that and went to bite her... I asked him to step up onto my hand and he jumped straight up and snuggled into my chest so I think it's just a case of being slow and gentle with him. He is very wary of hands at times and won't let me scratch him unless he's feeling very brave! But we will get there :)

:gcc: :thumbsup:
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Wolf » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:32 am

It sounds as if the two of you are doing very well together, the fact that he is doing all of these things with you, this early on in his adjustment period, suggests that he was one of the ones that was treated well.

Has he a name? Names are very important to a parrot, so important that the mother bird gives all of her babies a name and uses that name for them for the rest of their lives. So if he has a name, it would be a good idea to use it often when speaking to him, in exactly the same manner that you would if it were a small child.
As with all parrots it is best to proceed in all that you do with him at his pace and you will know when he is ready because he will normally make the first move towards you. With birds, the only things that you have that is of any value is their love and their trust and these go hand in hand with them, so if the bird does not trust you then you have nothing.

Letting him come out of his cage on his own is a very good idea and it is how my birds come out of their cages. I never go into their cages while they are there, I allow them to come out and then I clean their cage. I put food and water in from the outside as the cages that I have all have feed and water doors. Since he is new to you and this new place the easiest way to get him to go back in his cage is to wait to let him out until a couple of hours before he gets his dinner and then have him watch you put it in his cage, I show my birds their dinner first and them put it in the cage, they go in on their own. If he is not accustomed to this it will probably take a little time for him to make the mental connection, but he will.

Now, I don't have any GCC's so I must say this next is based on my research as well as from talking with people who do have them. GCC's are a very hands on species of parrot and they would rather spend time on you than just about anything else in the world and they will get very angry with you if you do not allow them enough time on you, in their opinion, not yours. That may sound adorable and it can indeed be so very adorable, but it can also be a double ended dagger. Due to the fact that we don't understand parrot as well as they feel we should, most parrots learn to show their ire and frustration with us by biting and if you GCC becomes angry because he does not get enough time on you, in his opinion, he will bite you until he feels that you have gotten the message. It is very difficult to let a biting bird remain on your body while you try to protect yourself, through distraction. But with this species that is exactly what sometimes must occur or it will not get past its anger and quit biting. Now this is an extreme reaction but there have been a couple of these cases that have occurred on this forum from GCC's that were mistreated and came from rescues. But it is a good piece of knowledge to have as with knowing about it you have a much better chance of not allowing things to ever reach those proportions. They are the epitome of a Velcro bird. And you will find that they are very loving birds and this one thing is the only thing that I have ever known about with them that I could consider a negative.

Although I don't have GCC's, I do have a Senegal parrot who came to live with us and it took her about a year to get past her anger from the mistreatment that she went through before coming here, so for a year I was covered with bites, but once she got it out of her system she has been the most loving bird that one could imagine.

I always try to give honest opinions both for the good and the bad and I hope that you will find this to be useful for the two of you,
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Razzy » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:46 am

Wolf wrote:It sounds as if the two of you are doing very well together, the fact that he is doing all of these things with you, this early on in his adjustment period, suggests that he was one of the ones that was treated well.

Has he a name? Names are very important to a parrot, so important that the mother bird gives all of her babies a name and uses that name for them for the rest of their lives. So if he has a name, it would be a good idea to use it often when speaking to him, in exactly the same manner that you would if it were a small child.
As with all parrots it is best to proceed in all that you do with him at his pace and you will know when he is ready because he will normally make the first move towards you. With birds, the only things that you have that is of any value is their love and their trust and these go hand in hand with them, so if the bird does not trust you then you have nothing.

Letting him come out of his cage on his own is a very good idea and it is how my birds come out of their cages. I never go into their cages while they are there, I allow them to come out and then I clean their cage. I put food and water in from the outside as the cages that I have all have feed and water doors. Since he is new to you and this new place the easiest way to get him to go back in his cage is to wait to let him out until a couple of hours before he gets his dinner and then have him watch you put it in his cage, I show my birds their dinner first and them put it in the cage, they go in on their own. If he is not accustomed to this it will probably take a little time for him to make the mental connection, but he will.

Now, I don't have any GCC's so I must say this next is based on my research as well as from talking with people who do have them. GCC's are a very hands on species of parrot and they would rather spend time on you than just about anything else in the world and they will get very angry with you if you do not allow them enough time on you, in their opinion, not yours. That may sound adorable and it can indeed be so very adorable, but it can also be a double ended dagger. Due to the fact that we don't understand parrot as well as they feel we should, most parrots learn to show their ire and frustration with us by biting and if you GCC becomes angry because he does not get enough time on you, in his opinion, he will bite you until he feels that you have gotten the message. It is very difficult to let a biting bird remain on your body while you try to protect yourself, through distraction. But with this species that is exactly what sometimes must occur or it will not get past its anger and quit biting. Now this is an extreme reaction but there have been a couple of these cases that have occurred on this forum from GCC's that were mistreated and came from rescues. But it is a good piece of knowledge to have as with knowing about it you have a much better chance of not allowing things to ever reach those proportions. They are the epitome of a Velcro bird. And you will find that they are very loving birds and this one thing is the only thing that I have ever known about with them that I could consider a negative.

Although I don't have GCC's, I do have a Senegal parrot who came to live with us and it took her about a year to get past her anger from the mistreatment that she went through before coming here, so for a year I was covered with bites, but once she got it out of her system she has been the most loving bird that one could imagine.

I always try to give honest opinions both for the good and the bad and I hope that you will find this to be useful for the two of you,


Brilliant advice. Thank you. It's very much appreciated.

Something that stood out to me in your message... when you said you specifically have a 'dinner time'. His previous owners gave him fresh fruit and a bowl of seed which was available at all times. Should I change this and give him a set dinner time with a set amount? This probably sounds like a very silly question however I have always seen birds with as much seed as they want and then some fruit when they feel like giving it.

I have a parrot mix, dried fruit parrot mix and then fresh fruit in the house for him. He loves pears and grapes. :P

Thank you again for your advice.
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Re: Hello from the UK.

Postby Razzy » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:48 am

By the way, his name is Bandit. :) I've kept this name as I know they rely alot on their names and he mutters it ever so slightly so it's clear he's used to it. I've been saying it alot in a high pitched voice like I'm talking to a baby :lol:
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