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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:01 pm

liz wrote:What I ment is that she is not a good mom. Just as if she had human kids (which she probably wouldn't take care of either) you will have to educate yourself on how to care for them.

You can start by bringing each one a treat when you go their. That is how you would win over a kid, but research on Michael's information. He even teaches Kili and Truman tricks.

Mine are spoiled like my kids were. Rambo and Myrtle teach me tricks.


LOL Liz - you shouldn't spoil your bird(s) though.

Teaching you tricks is great playful interaction. This is similar to the interaction of "bird-fetch". This is also very bonding to the bird, when you interact these ways with the bird, this is another thing that cause them to bond with you.

And when you interact with them with talking, this is also how they learn to understand words. Birds learn best by words associated with actions (or words associated with showing them colors, or shapes - blocks, circles, etc., for example, even) :D

Liz, I can tell you and your birds have a very good relationship. Bless God! I can tell they love you. Just by what you describe here.
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:15 pm

HungryBird wrote:You should not be bitten. I would not be okay with any of my pets attacking my guests. It's kind of rude to invite someone over to be mauled.

Do you have any interest in being on good terms with her parrots or do you just absolutely hate them? Does she have any interest in making her pets stop attacking you or does she think you should just deal with it?

I don't think you're crazy for being afraid of getting bitten by big birds. Or of getting bitten in general. I hope you can come to a compromise.


EXAMPLE:
The owner of the parrot shop had told me, it is good to get parrots acclimated to other people, friends, guests, etc. Because let's say there is a hurricane, and you had to evacuate your home due to the hurricane. So here you go packing up your parrot, taking him and you and all ya'll's supplies and things over to stay at someone else's home with them, to ride out the storm. If there are several other people there or staying there as well, then your parrot will be ok, because you will have gotten him use to also being around other people, and that other people are ok, not just the person he's bonded with. My parrot is adjusting to other people very well, I make sure of it. I even have been having my friends gradually interacting with the parrot. At first, the parrot is afraid, then he gets use to them and learns they're ok. My parrot cuddles with me alot, wants me to scratch his neck, belly, rolls and cuddles like a cat, grabbing my fingers with it's claws, hugging and cuddling against me, etc. I have my friends hug me in front of the parrot, the parrot watches this, this is his first key that the person is ok. Then when we're sitting around talking, after the parrot watching and studying the person for a while, (normal behavior for an "on guard-protective of his mommy-parrot) - the parrot sees that I'm interacting talking to the person. Then the parrot starts talking up a storm, wanting my attention, trying to talk to me, and like show off. LOL it's the cutest thing. Then, I go to the tree stand the parrot is on, with the person. I tell the person to talk to the parrot sweetly. Just talk. No touching yet. Then I get a nut and give it to the parrot, with us standing there, saying to the parrot, "get the nut?". (The parrot has learned the phrase "get the nut?" and gets all excited, coming for the nut. His favorite.). I give him the nut. Then I let the parrot see me giving another nut to the person (after he's finished with the first nut). Then I tell the person to say "get the nut?" and talk to it sweetly. The parrot hesitates a bit because this is not mommy. Eventually the parrot gets the nut from the other person. This then graduates to my putting the parrot on my arm, both me and my friend going to sit down next to eachother, then my giving the parrot a nut on my arm, THEN, my teaching the person how to get the parrot on their arm (hand motion and voice command), while mommy says, "It's okay; It's okay, go'head" (all soothing sweet talking he understands from mommy). Then the parrot jumps onto the other person's arm, and does the nut thing with the parrot on their arm. A few times of this with the same person, and the parrot has then started getting more acclimated to the person, to the point of starting to cuddle a bit with the person as well. :D

Also, important note: Parrots can be trained not to bite, but when they do go to bite, it is and could be for so many different reasons, and alot of all this comes to play with that. Even the gentle, gradual, niceness, talking sweetly, and the "EEEHH EEEHH EEEHH". And once a parrot "completely" trusts you, also, he won't bite you. Another factor when parrots may bite is if they have been abused before.

:danicing:
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:58 pm

arch its back, scream loudly, and flap it's wings towards him with claws out:

There’s something wrong with the relationship between your girlfriend’s dad and the parrot, for the parrot to act so agreesively toward him. The parrot is either afraid of him for some reason, or the parrot is feeling he wants to protect your girlfriend.

feces on their claws –
A bird can get fatal infections and die from their own poo. It is IMPERATIVE that she keep after the animals perches and cage, and keep them clean, immediately from poo droppings. Perches in the cage can be arranged in a way so that they’re not overlapping, so that the poo droppings don’t land on them, etc. She should not be letting the poo get on the birds at all, and once seen if accidentally, therefore, gotten on the birds, she should immediately clean the poo off the birds feet, by putting about a half inch of water in the sink or bathtub, putting a wash cloth in the water, then putting the bird on the washcloth, letting the washcloth come in contact with the birds feed, let the bird stand and walk on the washcloth, within the water. This is how to clean the birds feet. These things should be watched for and kept clean.

If in the sink, the sink has to be cleaned of any and all soap or cleaning chemicals residue. Rinsing thoroughly with HOT water first. And birds can not do soap either. They can also get sick from soap. With the washcloth, it has to also be thoroughly rinsed first, in order to get any laundary detergent and/or bleach residue out of the cloth first, before it can be used with the bird. The bathtub is better because the bird can not climb out of the bathtub, but he can the sink. (considering if she keeps her birds wings clipped timely).

Your girlfriend needs to be educated on the care of birds.

The regurgitating:
Regurgitating is a SIGN OF LOVE. The average person who HAS NOT ACTUALLY STUDIED ABOUT BIRDS, THEIR NATURE AND BEHAVIOR, does not know so many things. When a bird is bonded to someone, loves them very very much, loyal to them, etc., they regurgitate their food, as wanting to feed them. This is normal behavior for birds. She should be glad that her bird loves her so much. BUT – this should be discouraged in birds, by turning away, (turning away her attention to the bird, not giving the bird attention) and saying, “EEEHH EEEHH EEEHH”. – each time the bird does this. That is how it should be handled. Then the bird will stop doing it at that time. It may take a few times at that time, and with distracting the bird to something else, or sometimes may take to the point of walking out of the room. Birds also have to be watched to make sure it’s not throwing up from being sick. There is a difference, and you will be able to tell. It’s usually the love thing, and as soon as the bird starts juggling their neck back and forth to try to start regurgitating, that’s when the “eeehh eeehh eeehh” and turning away should start. My bird does this, and that’s how I handle it, and he stops. But the birds will do this again and again, and that is just how you handle it each time.

There is nothing wrong with people helping bird species to survive. Especially in the winter when there is food shortage outside for birds. That’s also why people put out bird feeders and take care of the feeders, to help outside birds, especially in the winter time. But there are large differences to indoor born and raised birds to outdoor born and raised birds – differences in their care needs, and reasons. And some people let their birds fly freely around the house playing. And they do.

There are ways to keep the parrots quiet, with different types of interacting with things, keeping them busy, like with toys, etc. Lots of things. And there are all different reasons parrots scream. If they are also deprived of keeping busy with toys and foraging toys, they will also act out and scream out of boredom.

Please read my posts here at this link: You will begin to understand some of these things. http://theparrotforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=7091 - - - - - this forum is about what constitutes abuse regarding parrots. This is a short forum, with only 8 posts on it, from different people, of which I have about 2 or 3 posts in there.

Once you become to really understand parrots, you will grow to feel that they are very intricate, sensitive, delicate, and intelligent creatures. Until then, you won’t understand. Some people don’t understand unless a parrot becomes acclimated and/or bonded to them. Even unless you and a parrot become acclimated and/or bonded, people can tell you all about the cute things they say and do all day long, and it won’t phase you. And you won’t appreciate it.
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:30 pm

pennyandrocky wrote:i love my parrots because they love me they are afecctionate,comical,intelligant,and beautiful i love to watch them fly around my house. i understand some people don`t thats why i don't drag them into my house which is also home to a dog,cat,fish,and two parrots anyone who enters our home expects to be greeted by a dog and have a parrot land on their shoulder or head depending on what he feels like doing in his home he says love you and gives them a kiss if they don't like it they don't come in. if you don't like your girlfriends parrots then move on they do live about 70 years



OOOPPPSSS!!! EEEEEKKKK !!! Penny .... there have been bad tales about when people have cats and birds together in same home, the cats killing the birds, by either scaring them to death, while they're climbing at the cage to get to them, or parrots at times can learn how to get out of the cages, undo the latches and locks, then when out of cage, cat get them. That happened to my friend too, bird got out of cage, cat got and killed bird. Everyone in the house was crying, and the owner got rid of the cats, and said, "no more cats!!!". I would never take a chance. Not cats will ever be in a home where my birdie is LOL. But I'm sure you're taking careful measures also. It is rare that birds and cats get along as loving friends, but they seldom do.
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:34 pm

pennyandrocky wrote:anyone who enters our home expects to be greeted by a dog and have a parrot land on their shoulder or head depending on what he feels like doing in his home he says love you and gives them a kiss if they don't like it they don't come in. if you don't like your girlfriends parrots then move on they do live about 70 years


oooohhhh this is sooooo cute! I'm going to penny's house. My bird does these things to me. I'm so glad to see that your birds are acclimated to other people. This is so healthy for birds. It is also important for birds to be able to feel comfortable with people other than the person they are bonded to. If they are not taught that, then they will only like and trust the person they are bonded to, and will be afraid of other people, etc.
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:39 pm

Michael wrote:
dorp wrote:Worst and most terrifying of all is that once it's latched on and biting him it will begin mimicking laughter.


I can totally see where this came from... sounds like she/they encourage this kind of behavior by laughing when it is happening to someone so the parrot is just being a crowd pleaser and vocalizing in the same way everyone else does. Just because some people don't give their parrots proper care or socialization does not make the animals themselves disgusting.

If all you want to do is rant/complain you won't get far here and I think most people will sooner tell you to get lost than the parrot. However, if you are serious about looking for solutions and making things better, then start by reading up on those articles, listening to advice people give you, and talk about implementing it with your girlfriend.


Excellent, Michael. Absolutely correct.

Also, at times, parrots can be territorial, this may be another reason the parrot acts this way. He may be protecting her, etc. He needs to be taught that others are ok in the manners I have given, for example, in getting the birds use to other people as well.
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:42 pm

liz wrote:Hey - my Amazons are good babies. Rambo and Myrtle are a joy.
My cockatiels are beautiful babies and sing to me.
The love birds are a little problem right now. Tweetle Dee has learned to take the door of his cage. I have to keep a clip on it to keep him in.


My bird sings with me too. You should hear him, he really has a good time with it, when I'm reviewing the music for the church, he's got that vibrato, and he bops up and down and dances. And he says, "yaayyy mama! sing!" It's adorable.
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:44 pm

pennyandrocky wrote::amazon: my amazon never attacked either my son started taking him into his room to play army men when he was 3.my son still cries over losing him last year


{{{{{{jhugging penny and her son}}}}}}}}

I'm so sorry for your loss. What happened?
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:46 pm

Oh yes, the grow a pair phrase had me actually laughing out loud :lol:
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Re: boyfriend of a 'parrot person'

Postby Maria » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:48 pm

derekismyname wrote:lol! grow a pair? balls are weak and sensitive, better to grow a v*****a , those things can take a pounding! anyway,what do you two have in common? I'd move on if I were you, disliking parrots a much as you do , i doubt that will change no matter how much time you spend at it, i doubt you two are in love ,it 's probably the sex that keeps it going so why not find a girl who has no parrots, this" relationship" will FAIL and is doomed if it hasn't yet! Good luck! :gray:



LOL - anyone I date, I tell them, the parrot is in the package that comes along with me. If you can't handle that, you don't get me.

Parrots just about almost become like a child to you.
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