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Rio, I and a little help

Postby daniel.lloydwilliams » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:24 pm

Hello to all
I hope some one can point me in the right direction. My wife and I have been looking in to getting a quaker parrot for some time. But one evening some one needed rid of a Indian ring :irn: neck ASAP and we have always taken unwanted animals and not new born's to try and keep the breeding trade low.(cats, rabbits, dogs and now birds)

So we now have a 12 month old Indian ring neck who my children have called Rio. So if possible I need some advice on the best way to bring him up.
He has come from a home where he was let out to fly for one hour a day and left in his cage the rest of the time. He knows how to step up but bites when doing so, and he has no talking skills of any kind.

I have just got him a cage big enough to fit a large macaw and his diet consists of fruit, veg, seeds and dried parrot food.
on his 2nd day we let him out for 6 or 7 hours and he spent most of it on the light shade making lots of noise and popping down to eat. He was more than happy to land on my hand and eat fruit when presented. I also found out he has a liking for toast :? i had no say in the matter, he just landed on my hand and started eating my breakfast :roll:
later that evening he had his wings clipped and a check up at the vets and after a few more hours attention he was put to bed.
Today he was out for about 15 hours and after a little work with an apple he no longer bites when stepping up. BUT he has made little to no noise today and does not like being touched. he has a nip if we try to pet him. still more than happy to step up and make his way up the arm till sat on top of my head but still a little quite. :(
every book and internet post tells us something different and contradicts each other. Most say don't have a cage near a window but there is no where in the house that does not look out a window.
So what next? he is our first bird and all research we did was on aquaker parrots.
Im not to fussed about talking but the wife would like him to chat.
would love to bet him with out fear of loosing a limb.
is he allowed grapes? so many books say yes and others say no....
any help I would be very grateful
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby GlassOnion » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:22 pm

Welcome!

Why did you clip his wings? :( Birds needs their wings to properly exercise their heart, lungs, and air sacs, as well as their mental thinking. Clipping makes a depressed bird, just like a person in a wheelchair. It is a mental and physical handicap that shortens lifespans due to lack of exercise and often leads to plucking, screaming, biting, etc out of frustration. Birds will almost always take flight instead of fight; but with a clipped bird, it will almost always resort to biting because it has no option of saying 'no.'

When the wings grow out, please don't clip them again. I have seen my birds flighted and clipped, and I can tell you that I will NEVER ever clip again after seeing how happy they are and how much fun they have doing aerial acrobatics and zapping around.

I would suggest you look through Michael's taming guide: www.trainedparrot.com/taming and go step by step :)
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby pennyandrocky » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:23 pm

i agree with glassonion :flapping: why take flight away?
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby Evie » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:16 pm

Hi and welcome from a fellow newbie :swaying: . I must admit I've never understood why people feel the need to clip their birds' wings. I have never clipped any of mine and felt desperately sad for a budgie I was bought as a child who had been unilaterally clipped, the ultimate cruelty in my opinion. Mine have never come to any harm because they still had their natural ability to fly. With obvious exceptions flight is what makes a bird a bird, it doesn't make sense to me to make that natural behaviour difficult or impossible.
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby liz » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:01 pm

Clipping is mutilation. My Rambo :amazon: was clipped too close and is now a pedestrian for the rest of his life. My Myrtle came to me clipped and was afraid of everything. When her feathers grew back she became a very social and loving bird. Her flight is so wonderful that my poor Rambo has been taking headers off the top of his cage and flapping for all he is worth to control the crash.
Flight is not only important physically but by what I see in my two it is also a mental advantage.
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby Rokisha » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:06 am

Welcome to the forums! I too am curious as to why you clipped your parrots wings. Mine were already clipped when i got her so I didn't really have a say in the matter but I do plan on letting her grow her primaries back out. Michael has some great blogs about flight recall training that you should look into. Hopefully that will change your mind about keeping your birds clipped.
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby daniel.lloydwilliams » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:22 am

Well I'm against wing clipping, but we listened to the advice of so
Called experts who say its a must to clip a captive bird. Looking at the forum last night I do believe I should have gone with my gut and not had them clipped. But it's too late now, all I can do is wait till they grow back and let him do what he does best, (sit on the lamp shade)
So what next with young rio?
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Re: Rio, I and a little help

Postby pennyandrocky » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:30 am

your off to a good start. just give him time to adjust. i take the let the bird come to me approach which does not take long.he should get at least 10-12 hours of sleep though.my cousin has a ringneck i love them,go on youtube and look at marnie's videos they can talk alot.all my cages,playstands,and trees are in front of windows i don't know who's saying that's wrong but it works fo me they love to sit and watch wild birds and people outside. you should work on harness training to take him out in the fresh air and sunlight.that's all i have for now. keep us updated, there's alot of good info on here.
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