


seagoatdeb wrote:Wow what beautifull bird


seagoatdeb wrote:i am so sorry for your loss



Wolf wrote:I am thinking that this is another one that is turning bad, so lets drop the personal remarks and move on.
I don't mind that there are disagreements as this can work to the benefit of the party asking for information and help So they can work great if we allow them to, but we can't allow them to degenerate this way. Perhaps each presents their opinion, point of view, or whatever then one or two replies to present documentation and or factual supports and then drop it and let the party requesting the information make their own choices, Would that work?

Wolf wrote:Well, I think of the word Karma , which for me is the law of cause and effect as it pertains to beings capable of free choice, in this instance. If they don't yet know the difference in volume as well as the frequency of a bird and it's screaming behaviors, it will not be long before they become acutely aware of the differences.

Pajarita wrote:Wolf wrote:I am thinking that this is another one that is turning bad, so lets drop the personal remarks and move on.
I don't mind that there are disagreements as this can work to the benefit of the party asking for information and help So they can work great if we allow them to, but we can't allow them to degenerate this way. Perhaps each presents their opinion, point of view, or whatever then one or two replies to present documentation and or factual supports and then drop it and let the party requesting the information make their own choices, Would that work?
I agree 100%! From now on, let's all support our claims with verifiable facts, scientific studies or research/arguments by professionals and not use our own opinion as an argument (well, unless it's one of those subjects on which there is no such things...)

Pajarita wrote:Wolf wrote:Well, I think of the word Karma , which for me is the law of cause and effect as it pertains to beings capable of free choice, in this instance. If they don't yet know the difference in volume as well as the frequency of a bird and it's screaming behaviors, it will not be long before they become acutely aware of the differences.
Unfortunately, in situations like this one, the one that pays the price is always the bird.

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