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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby Pajarita » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:49 am

When you talk about parrots and aggression, there are just a few reasons:
1. It's a wild-caught bird that doesn't trust humans
2. It's an abused bird and, by abuse, I mean real abuse and not just severe neglect
3. It's hormonal

Now, we know that Rio is not a wild-caught and we know that he hasn't been abused so the ONLY other option is that he is sexually frustrated and, taking into consideration that you don't keep your birds to a solar schedule as they should be kept and that he has no mate, the answer is pretty clear.
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby ParrotsForLife » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:55 am

Pajarita wrote:When you talk about parrots and aggression, there are just a few reasons:
1. It's a wild-caught bird that doesn't trust humans
2. It's an abused bird and, by abuse, I mean real abuse and not just severe neglect
3. It's hormonal

Now, we know that Rio is not a wild-caught and we know that he hasn't been abused so the ONLY other option is that he is sexually frustrated and, taking into consideration that you don't keep your birds to a solar schedule as they should be kept and that he has no mate, the answer is pretty clear.

Pajarita lovebirds are naturally aggressive birds they do attack other birds and have been known to chew off other birds toes and even kill he is clearly a danger to my tiels.Lovebirds dont need a mate and I think he would do better as an only bird living with someone who can care for him because I really cant I made a mistake of mixing an aggressive species with quiet gentle tiels.I think im doing whats best to rehome him.
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby Pajarita » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:33 am

My dear, how many lovebirds have you had to make such a categoric statement? I had a flock of over 30 for years and years and I can assure you they were not aggressive at all. They lived with a flock of tiels and another one of budgies as well as larger species like conures, amazons, grays, cockatoos and they never bothered anybirdy much less chew toes off or kill. The ONLY aggressive lovebirds are the ones that are not kept as nature meant for them to live... and that can be true of any animal, not only lovies.
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby ParrotsForLife » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:39 pm

Pajarita wrote:My dear, how many lovebirds have you had to make such a categoric statement? I had a flock of over 30 for years and years and I can assure you they were not aggressive at all. They lived with a flock of tiels and another one of budgies as well as larger species like conures, amazons, grays, cockatoos and they never bothered anybirdy much less chew toes off or kill. The ONLY aggressive lovebirds are the ones that are not kept as nature meant for them to live... and that can be true of any animal, not only lovies.

I understand what your saying but its a known fact lovebirds are aggressive birds as well as parrotlets everybody knows this and im confused as to how you didnt know.Anyways I decided to rehome him.
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby Pajarita » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:37 am

Oh, I know what people say about them but I have found that most people don't really know what they are talking about when it comes to pet parrots. Mind you, it's not that they are not telling the truth! They are, only this is the truth as they see it and they are not taking into consideration that the animal is simply reacting to unnatural conditions. Give an animal a life that resembles closely the life that nature evolved it to have and the animal will not have aberrant behaviors.

And, not to make a fine point but, for somebody who wants to become an avian vet and a trainer, you are giving up way too easily and listening only to one side of the argument. Why don't you try what I suggested? What can you loose? If it doesn't work out, you can always rehome both of them...
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby ParrotsForLife » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:49 am

Pajarita wrote:Oh, I know what people say about them but I have found that most people don't really know what they are talking about when it comes to pet parrots. Mind you, it's not that they are not telling the truth! They are, only this is the truth as they see it and they are not taking into consideration that the animal is simply reacting to unnatural conditions. Give an animal a life that resembles closely the life that nature evolved it to have and the animal will not have aberrant behaviors.

And, not to make a fine point but, for somebody who wants to become an avian vet and a trainer, you are giving up way too easily and listening only to one side of the argument. Why don't you try what I suggested? What can you loose? If it doesn't work out, you can always rehome both of them...

Who is both of them if your are saying for me to get another lovebird No because that is not the solution to the problem.And I never said I wanted to become a trainer?
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby Pajarita » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:14 am

With lovebirds, having a mate is essential so, yes, that is part of the problem with Rio. And what do you mean you do not want to become a trainer? Don't you advertise yourself as a professional trainer and call yourself the Parrot Whisperer?!
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby ParrotsForLife » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:40 am

Pajarita wrote:With lovebirds, having a mate is essential so, yes, that is part of the problem with Rio. And what do you mean you do not want to become a trainer? Don't you advertise yourself as a professional trainer and call yourself the Parrot Whisperer?!

No im not the Parrot whisperer thats some youtube person.Everybody on Talk cockatiels said not to get him a mate it will make things worse and when I told them I was keeping my new bird in a strict solar schedule someone said im treating my birds like play things.
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby Pajarita » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:34 am

There was a new member that you knew from another board and you identified yourself as Parrot Whisperer...

As to what people tell you, unless you do your own research from scientific sources, you will NEVER learn about parrots.
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Re: Letting Rio go

Postby ParrotsForLife » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:32 pm

Pajarita wrote:There was a new member that you knew from another board and you identified yourself as Parrot Whisperer...

As to what people tell you, unless you do your own research from scientific sources, you will NEVER learn about parrots.

I got banned from the group yesterday because I didnt agree with what they were saying and I kinda argued with them.I normally do research.
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