HAVENT FOUND ANY GOOD ADVICE ON THIS SITE ILL EXPLAIN!!!

[seagoatdeb]

I dont think thats it. I think Liz is distressed to see fighting/ and or talk against this forum which has been such a help to her. The ones of us who keep posting are ones who just believe in turning the chain into a better one once the problems is solved. This forum is very tolerant of the differences in people.

[Wolf]

No, Liz is asking that everyone quit posting in this thread so it will stop being at the top and move on down and onto another page that is not on screen. She has PTSD and has difficulty dealing with any conflict, regardless of what it is about or who it is about, or who is doing it. I actually agree with her as it really is time to move on.

Yes, we are tolerant of people as well as their differences. Michael and I agree very much on this and we expect people to resolve their own differences, if possible and be adult enough to learn to get along without any outside interference from moderators (me ) or the owner ( Michael ). We encourage the individuals to let other members know that they need to be tolerant of others and to play nice as well as to respect this if other need to remind them to be tolerant and to play nice.

My main purpose is not to have to end disputes or lay down rules for anyone, my primary purpose is to remove spam, remove double posts and to monitor the site so that Michael can keep it up and running as smoothly as possible.

Michael owns the site and could shut it down or anything else that he wants to do with it, but he chooses to give us a place to come together and talk and share and learn about parrots. Except for eight very simple rules, he has given you this forum. This is your forum and you should understand and respect that. If you do not want fighting on the forum, the very best way to stop the fighting is to refuse to participate in fighting and to encourage each other to not fight by encouraging that they speak to each other in polite and respectful terms always.

From time to time, it appears that as moderator that I must get involved in these disputes and bring then to an end and I have several tools to allow me to do this up to and including the banning of offenders, something that I try to never use and then only in a very limited fashion. The thing about my getting involved in these disputes is that no matter what I do to bring it to an end is that someone is going to be unhappy with it. I try to talk people out of their fighting with each other and to encourage them to see and understand that speaking in a disrespectful manner or insisting on their always being right or that their way of doing things is the only right way are all things the generally lead to disputes and fighting and to not do them or other such things.

This is your forum, it is not mine, you need to take responsibility for your words and how you conduct yourself here and since this site is open to anyone anywhere in the world, you need to exercise patience as well as tolerance of other peoples. If someone is being intentionally rude and/ or disrespectful of anyone then ask them to be nice and if needed respectfully explain how they are being rude and disrespectful and help them to do better. Do not count on me, the moderator to always be here in time to prevent your disagreements and to put an end to all of your disputes. I can't because I am not on the forum 24 hours a day. I should not have to anyway, this is your forum and it reflects what you put into it. If you don't want fighting on the forum then do not fight, if you want respectful replies the reply in a respectful manner, if you want understanding and tolerance on the forum, then be understanding and tolerant of others. It is really quite simple, if you just do it. This is your forum and it will be whatever you make it become, no matter what I do.

If you need help or have problems then PM me and I will listen and try my best to help.

[liz]

This thread was titled to get attention. Many other things have been discussed in this one but the title still stands. A new person coming into the forum will be drawn to read it first and get the opinion that we are all constantly bickering.

Don't erase the thread. It is part of the history of this forum. If we stop posting to this one it will go off the first and second page which is where new people read first. It is not the only thread that has turned and twisted but it is an angry thread.

My idea: We are a neighborhood of humans owned by our parrots. We can all learn from our neighbors. There is no other place that I have found to brag about your kids that others of like mind will understand.

I will do my part and not post to this thread again so it will die out.

[seagoatdeb]

in that case, Bird Woman you could start a post about your aviary and we can comment there.