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[Curious Diode]

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[Bird woman]

Boric acid powder or peppermint oil in water spray. Outside house around Windows doorways edges of rooms etc. don't sprinkle or spray around birds or let them play on any surfaces with this stuff on it. The peppermint oil spray is a natural repellant and they hate it. If you spray often enough outside your house they will quickly move to the neighbors. BW

[Curious Diode]

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[Bird woman]

I've used the peppermint oil myself and it didn't seem to attract any more bugs than what already was there. I've even put it around the inside of my closet around my window seals and around the edges of my bedroom. My birds have there own indoor and outdoor spaces so I haven't had to deal with any toxic fumes or residues from this mixture. I mix 1 cup to 1 gallon of warm water and it seems to do the trick. I absolutely hate spiders borderline phobea do your homework on the toxicisity of this stuff because I don't know . Look and see what spiders natural enemy is maybe a bigger bird LOL

[Pajarita]

Peppermint oil is fine as long as they don't consume it. Personally, I like spiders and the only thing I do (when they are too big or making a web in an inconvenient place) is take them outside or to the basement. I wouldn't worry about the birds, spiders like to keep to themselves.

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[Bird woman]

Pajarita, you can have all my spiders , there's something not right with eight legs and a bunch of eyeballs. and Harry to boot. BW

[Pajarita]

Ahhhh, but they are not only eight legs and a bunch of eyeballs - - they are also incredibly clean animals (in ancient times, they used spider webs as bandages as a new one is always completely sterile and they are experimenting with bone 'screws' made out of spider silk as well as using it to 'encase' transplanted organs because the body does not reject it) with a voracious appetite for insects (so much so that, if there had been no spiders on the world, humans would have never evolved to where we are now because the species would have died off from all the different diseases carried by insects - each spider eats about 2,000 insects a year!). See? They are truly amazing and very useful animals!. And I think they are also quite beautiful.

[Bird woman]

Well maybe we're missing the boat here , let's start a spider training camp and put those eight legs to work cleaning bird cages and I would probably change my mind in a hurry !!!!! BW