Pajarita wrote::lol: You really do have a problem with letting go, don't you? My feelings are not in question and, if you knew me, you would know that I have the thickest skin ever so, no, it's not a matter of me being overly sensitive about the subject or about me not being able to have an argument (not that it could be logical if it's about God but anyway..), I am the QUEEN of debates! There are two reasons and two reasons alone why I don't want to continue the argument:
1) you can't argue with anybody who claims that they have evidence that God exists (the whole premise is not only false but too ridiculous as there is not and never has been any evidence (as in body of facts or provable information - it comes from the latin 'videre' which means to see) whatsoever of God's existence - and that's why all religions are based on something as unprovable as 'faith' which is defined as 'unable to be demonstrated by evidence or argument as true or existing'. So, as you can see, you can't use both 'faith' and 'evidence' for the same thing because it's either one or the other - you either 'see' the proof (evidence) or you don't, in which case, you need 'faith'.
2) this is a BIRD forum, not a religion one. If you want to have a debate on anything related to birds, you are more than welcome to state your position and we will take it from there.
I'm not trying to argue you or debate here and I love just how you completely ignored everything I said without even responding to it objectively, sure you're not being sensitive at all..
just to respond to your two points:
1) I've never brought up the word faith, you did. and anyways, the whole thing you are arguing with is a logical fallacy in my opinion. As you are using the wrong way to identify God existence. like what evidence would you want or accept? because it looks like nothing would ever be enough for you as evidence as you have already made up your mind on this matter. anyways, back to that point, if you're telling me everything needs to be proven physically or empirically, then how do you prove gravity? I know you will say we can measure it's affects. then how about consciousness?
2) I though this is the "Off topic discussions that are unrelated to parrots and other parrot discussions that don't fit anywhere else." section? Also I don't mind continuing this discussion somewhere else
anyways I'll leave it at that, and I apologize if replying to you had bothered you this much I'll stop "arguing" about this topic with you
Don't worry. I am not bothered by you - what possible reason would I have to be bothered by you when I don't even know you? You choose to believe in God and I don't - that's all there is to it. And, although this section is titled "General or Off Topic" and it does contain threads that are not about birds, it is still not the right place for a religious debate - not that there could actually be an real debate when it comes to religion because, for that, you would need facts to use as arguments. And, no, there is no other place where we could argue about this because, as I told you before, I don't argue about religion. It's a waste of time.
