I don't let my birds up on my shoulder most of the time ,and they don't try to get there, i wear a neck perch that they love, it let's me do all kinds of things and still have the bird with me, i can bend over and pick stuff off the floor and they're find and don't flutter or lose their balance, i can use both hands to wash the dishes

, the birds love to ride on it when in the truck (i know, i know) and i can secure them if need be by placing one hand on their back if something startles them (like traffic when getting out of the truck, or going thru automatic doors)'.Mandy G, Paco's mom and i covered all this on a thread called Amazon under the species post, page 7 i think. anyway here's a pic