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Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

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Which best describes your position on food management?

I am female and agree with food management
5
24%
I am female and disagree with food management
12
57%
I am male and agree with food management
1
5%
I am male and disagree with food management
3
14%
 
Total votes : 21

Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby Vikki » Tue May 03, 2011 1:00 pm

Like many others, I agree there is a time and place for food management, but I do not adhere to it with my own personal birds. At the rescue, we definitely have a food management program, but only because we have a small handful of staff and it sometimes takes 4 hours to feed the 200+ birds we have. They do get handfuls of goodies and snacks during the day, at no set times, and only as help is available.

I also disagree as well about the aggression statement but strongly agree that members need to take the advice given here by anyone with a grain of salt and not gospel. Only you know your bird and every bird is different, even within their own species. Just because one persons GCC shows better characteristics under food management doesn't mean that will hold true for someone elses GCC.

I do not consider myself an expert by any means, but in working with such a huge variety of birds at the rescue (many of them with more than aggression problems) I can guarantee you it has nothing at all to do with timed feedings. The only time feeding will stir aggression is if you withhold food altogether and that's just plain inhumane. On the flipside, and from experience, the only aggression I have ever seen linked to feeding is when you have clutches of birds in one cage or flight, but then it is a territorial/dominance characteristic and that is entirely a natural behavior and should not be corrected or chastized for.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby mrstweet » Tue May 03, 2011 2:55 pm

I think agree/disagree is misleading - it's whether or not you USE it. I see the benefits but make sure there is food in my bird's cages at all times.

I won't vote because of that, sorry. It implies I might/actually do use food management.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby Michael » Tue May 03, 2011 3:00 pm

Sounds like you disagree enough with it that you choose not to use it. Look it's possible to agree with it completely but not use it because your bird is sick or something like that. But if you see a use for it but find it not worth applying to your own birds, then it sounds like you disagree. Anyway, you're call.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby GlassOnion » Tue May 03, 2011 3:19 pm

In my experience, my birds are more likely to be naughty and nippy with a full tummy because they want to nap and relax.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby kaylayuh » Tue May 03, 2011 3:23 pm

GlassOnion wrote:In my experience, my birds are more likely to be naughty and nippy with a full tummy because they want to nap and relax.


See, I have the exact opposite reaction from my birds. They're more likely to bite and do all kinds of other crazy things if they're hungry. It's why I stopped trying to use it.

I don't have any huge philosophical problems with food management and I know it works it some situations. But it just absolutely does not work for my birds.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby mrstweet » Tue May 03, 2011 3:30 pm

Michael wrote:Sounds like you disagree enough with it that you choose not to use it. Look it's possible to agree with it completely but not use it because your bird is sick or something like that. But if you see a use for it but find it not worth applying to your own birds, then it sounds like you disagree. Anyway, you're call.


C'mon, don't put words in my mouth. There are times when I will use it - for example, my cockatiel likes to overeat and subsequently become too heavy. I have used it then; however, on a DAY TO DAY basis I do not use it. Not using does not equal disagreeing.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby Chris&Akilah » Tue May 03, 2011 10:52 pm

I also put "No" but only because I don't do it. I agree with the general statement "each bird (and owner) are different." What's good for some might not be so for others. I'm really not sure what gender has to do with it though. There are way more women than men on this forum so a poll like this is pointless anyway :?.
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby zazanomore » Wed May 04, 2011 6:24 am

Chris&Akilah wrote:I also put "No" but only because I don't do it. I agree with the general statement "each bird (and owner) are different." What's good for some might not be so for others. I'm really not sure what gender has to do with it though. There are way more women than men on this forum so a poll like this is pointless anyway :?.


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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby Vikki » Wed May 04, 2011 7:14 am

I have to agree there, there are more women than men here so the responses will be unbalanced regardless what they are. I didn't understand what gender had to do with it either, though. Are you saying that women are more prone to food-related issues and are more emotional about food in general so that we pass it onto our "children"? Kind of came off sounding a bit sexist to me from the start. Might as well have a poll about how many women give their birds cutesy names as opposed to men....
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Re: Correlation between sex of owner and food management (Poll)

Postby kaylayuh » Wed May 04, 2011 7:42 am

Vikki wrote:I have to agree there, there are more women than men here so the responses will be unbalanced regardless what they are. I didn't understand what gender had to do with it either, though. Are you saying that women are more prone to food-related issues and are more emotional about food in general so that we pass it onto our "children"? Kind of came off sounding a bit sexist to me from the start. Might as well have a poll about how many women give their birds cutesy names as opposed to men....


I think he made it men v. women because the original dissenters in another thread were women (i.e. me). I don't think it's really sexist or was intended to be.

If there's really a huge problem with the men v. women aspect, just look at the total "no" responses compared to the total "yes" responses. Currently, there are 13 no responses and 3 yes responses. Only 15% of the total forum (so far) agree with food management, while 68% disagree with or don't use it.

I think it's interesting to have things separated into male v. female. Because there are so few men on the forum, it's interesting to see if gender correlates to their decision to use, not use, disagree or agree with certain aspects of parrot ownership. The same with women.
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